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An Tir IL dated 2012-01-06 (Jump to Submissions)

Unto Anthony Black Lion, Oddr Lions Blood, and the esteemed heralds from An Tir and elsewhere to whom this missive comes, Rhieinwylydd Boar sends greetings and farewells! This will be my last letter as Boar Pursuivant. Many thanks to Elizabeth and Oddr, my (fabulous) bosses over my tenure. Thanks also to Elizabeth Sable Chime, Toki Sinister Gauntlet, and Mericke Midhaven who will be Boar-by-committee until such point as a permanent successor appears (hint, hint :).

Commentary on this letter is due February 18


Greetings fellow Heralds!

Welcome to 2012 and the January Internal Letter.

This month begins a series of changes in officers, rules, and -- notably -- OSCAR.

As mentioned by Boar in the past, she is in the depths of her graduate studies. As such, we are losing her services. I am personally grateful to her support of my office, and look forward to opportunities to work with her in other, less demanding, capacities. Without her dedication and willingness to sacrifice her wrists in the name of heraldry, my life .. I would have none!

As many of you are aware by now, the new draft of the Rules for Submission have been posted. It is dated to coincide with this month's meeting of the Board of Directors. Upon ratification, I am told to expect a transition period as the new rules are phased in and the existing rules under which we've operated are phased out. When specific details about this transition are announced, we will make note of that in the Internal Letter. Until then, I strongly urge all commenting and consulting heralds to go to http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/regs.html and review the new rules. For convenience, a summary of changes has also been posted.

Now to OSCAR. The installation of OSCAR at http://oscar.sca.org -- where Laurel-level commentary occurs -- has been upgraded with a variety of new and interesting features. Among them, support for hosting Kingdom Internal Letters such as our own, and the ability to publish from Kingdom to Laurel in a submissions-herald-friendly fashion. I have received permission from Black Lion to evaluate these changes with an eye toward transitioning from our existing OSCAR at antirheralds.org to the one at sca.org.

When/If that happens, I will publish my intended schedule for transition, and those commenters without accounts at the new site will need to obtain them. Until then, however, our existing OSCAR remains the intended site for commentary.

Lions Blood Meetings:

We had a well-attended and successful meeting at my house on 18 Dec. A number of new heralds were in attendance as well as several branch heralds from the area. Remember that Lions Blood meetings, despite being working meetings, are still opportunities for education and meeting your fellow heralds. We each have our individual strengths and interests, and opportunities such as this allow a chance to learn those of others, and make us as a College better able to serve our Kingdom.

The next meetings are:

  • Sunday, 22 Jan, noon. At my home in Mill Creek, WA.
  • Sunday, 19 Feb, noon. At my home in Mill Creek, WA.

Please email me (lions-blood@antir.sca.org) so that I know how many to expect, and to give you directions if you haven't been to my house before.

Until then, I remain --

Oddr Lions Blood


The following is excerpted from the October 2011 Cover Letter.

From Laurel: Request for Applications

Shauna wishes to give up the Ragged Staff office. This is the intake clerk for Wreath, Pelican and Laurel. The job description is below. If you are interested, please send a letter of interest to laurel@heraldry.sca.org, wreath@heraldry.sca.org and pelican@heraldry.sca.org. This position will be open until at least Wednesday, February 1, 2012.

Ragged Staff job description:

Skill requirements: the ability to manage and meet rolling deadlines; close attention to detail; basic computer skills including word processing, email, file uploads and downloads; basic knowledge of heraldry and the heraldic submissions process; basic knowledge about alphabetization including special characters from foreign languages; the physical ability to manage packets of paper.

Other requirements: a secure mailing point for incoming and outgoing packets (either at home or a Post Office box) which is accessible on a frequent basis (at least a couple times a week); a stable high-speed Internet connection and reliable email; space to store 6-8 standard, 5-drawer filing cabinets (either at home or in a storage unit) which is accessible year-round on at least weekly basis; space to keep some office supplies, the in-submission paperwork which needs immediate access, and a scanner. As noted above, if a Post Office box or a storage unit for the filing cabinets are necessary, the Laurel office will reimburse for those costs.

Other ways you could be awesome: availability two weekend days a month to attend Pelican and Wreath's meetings online; a deep and abiding love of process flow; more computer skills; a talent with automation.

It should be expected that this job involves ongoing, frequent correspondence (both paper and email) and processing of paperwork.

This job involves:

  • Monitoring OSCAR for new Letters of Intent
  • Receiving paper packets of submissions from submissions heralds
  • Receiving scanned packets of submissions from submissions heralds
  • Monitoring payment plans for submissions (no actual money contact)
  • Updating tracking charts for Letters of Intent regarding packet and payment receipt
  • Contacting submissions heralds about missing/late packets and payments
  • Reporting to the Submissions and Principal Heralds lists on the status of packets and payments
  • Processing submissions forms (such as stamping with dates and results, making file folders)
  • Matching incoming submissions with existing folders in the files if necessary
  • Noticing when things don't match up in the process, paperwork, etc.
  • Sending a monthly packet to Wreath with Wreath's copy of the armory paperwork

From Pelican: Request for Comments on Patterns in Order Names and Heraldic Titles

In the Cover Letter of August 2005 (following a call for comments on the Cover Letter of February 2005), Pelican made a substantial ruling regarding the patterns for registration for order names and heraldic titles. Since that time, our knowledge of order names and heraldic titles has advanced considerably, in large part due to the research that I did before I stepped up as Pelican.

For those who are not familiar with them, my "Heraldic Titles from the Middle Ages and Renaissance" can be found at http://medievalscotland.org/jes/HeraldicTitlesSCA/index.shtml. It discusses over 600 period heraldic titles; while I think more titles will be found over time (especially in Germany), it considerably expanded the number of heraldic titles known to the Laurel office. My "Medieval Secular Order Names" (found at http://medievalscotland.org/jes/OrderNames/ or at http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/order/new/) also considerably altered our knowledge of medieval order names, by identifying large numbers of previously unknown German fraternal orders and determining which orders were actually founded far later, with invented medieval roots. I should note that I have work in progress on an article regarding the religious orders, as well as some notes regarding apocryphal and problematic orders. I would gladly share the data from the work in progress with others, but they are far from ready for publication.

Over the next few months, I'm going to be asking a group of questions about what we should allow and what we should not allow in the registration of order names and heraldic titles. This month, I want to ask a question about the relationship between order names and heraldic titles. Current precedent says that we allow the creation of heraldic titles from order names. However a recent submission (Saint John Chrysostom Herald, on the August Caid Letter of Intent) has raised the question of what sorts of order names were used to create heraldic titles. While that item will be decided before the close of commentary for this issue, the broader question remains: should we allow heraldic titles to be created from any order names or only from certain order names? If so, what sorts of order names should be models for creating heraldic titles?

From Pelican: Some Name Resources (A Series)

This month, we're going to turn our attention to the continent and French names. By about 1000 AD, there were two distinct kinds of languages spoken in what we call France today: the langue d'oïl (from which modern French descends) and the langue d'oc (from which modern Provencal/Occitan descends). These two types of languages have significantly different naming pools and grammar, and must be treated differently. Additionally, a Germanic language, Frankish, had fallen out of use, but had left its imprint on French names (like Girard and Arnoult). We'll talk about names in the langue d'oc next month.

The langue d'oïl refers to a group of dialects that would become modern French. Regional differences remain today; they were more significant in the Middle Ages. Therefore, if you're aiming for a particular location, you want to stick to data from that location. However, Laurel treats these dialects as a single language. Brittany is perhaps the most variant of them, as another language related to Cornish and Welsh, is spoken there in addition to French.

The data from Paris are quite rich: census records began to be kept in 1292. I tend to start with Colm Dubh's "An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris" (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/paris.html) and then move to Aryanhwy merch Catmael's "French Names from Paris, 1421, 1423, & 1438" (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/paris1423.html).

A variety of articles describe names in the provinces. They can be found at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/french.shtml. New names appear in the sixteenth century; a great source for them is Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada's "Names Found in Ambleny Registers 1578-1616" (http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/Ambleny/).

There are good books dealing with French names and problematic books. Among the best is Marie Therese Morlet's Étude d'anthroponymie picarde : les noms de personne en Haute Picardie aux XIIIe, XIVe, XVe siècles (often called Morlet Picardie for short; it deals with the 13th to 15th century). Morlet has written other works as well. Les noms de personne sur le territoire de l'ancienne Gaule du VIe au XIIe siècle is a three volume work dealing with names from the 12th century and before. Unfortunately, Dictionnaire étymologique des noms de famille (etymological dictionary of family names) has very few dates. It is a great treatment of modern family names, but rarely allows us to determine anything about the use of these names before 1600. Therefore, it's not a good place to look for documentation; use one of her books that gives explicit dates for names. There are also two good books on French place names: Albert Dauzat and Charles Rostaing's Dictionnaire étymologique des noms de lieux en France and Ernest Nègre's Toponymie générale de la France : étymologie de 35000 noms de lieux. I often find myself searching Nègre in Google Books. Other books, like Dauzat and Rostaing or Morlet Picardie, are visible in snippet view, which can often be sufficient for documentation purposes.

From Wreath: Ladybugs Proper

This month we have defined a ladybug proper to be gules spotted sable; the head and legs are generally sable as well. At one point in the past, we did blazon ladybugs proper, but that practice was changed more recently. While ladybugs do vary in tincture in nature, most people have the same mental image of a typical ladybug, and as we have seen several submissions with ladybugs recently, we felt it time to once again define the proper tincture.

No An Tir items were included on the October 2011 Laurel LoAR


In general, these items are from the November 2011 Internal Letter.

The following items have been forwarded to Laurel and are tentatively scheduled to be decided on in March 2012

Eleanor de Martineau. Name.

Emma Compton. Device. Per fess azure and Or, two cats passant addorsed with tails entwined Or and a rose azure barbed and seeded proper.

Killian Flynn. Household name Clan Mac Thoye and personal device. Per saltire sable and gules, on a saltire counterchanged fimbriated Or, two rapiers inverted proper, a bordure Or.

Midhaven, Shire of. Household name Company of the Tulip and associated badge. A tulip slipped, leaved and conjoined at the base within a mascle argent.

Midhaven, Shire of. Household name Inn of the Silver Tulip.

Midhaven, Shire of. Populace badge. Per chevron azure and sable, a tulip slipped and leaved argent.

Nogg Gabryel. Device. Per bend gules and sable, a bend argent and overall in pale an annulet enflamed on the outer edge sustained by a gauntlet aversant Or charged in base with a compass star sable.

Originally submitted as Per bend gules and sable, a bend argent and overall in pale an annulet enflamed sustained by a gauntlet aversant Or, the gauntlet charged in base with a compass star sable, we have reblazoned this device in order to accurately describe the position of the flames. Note: This item was pended from the September 2011 ILoI.

Reitz von Landesehre. Name (see returns for device).

Originally submitted as Riese von Landesehre, no documentation could be found for the element Riese. The submitter agreed to this change in order to permit the name to be forwarded.

Sibilla Chantrelle. Name and device. Gules, a horse passant contourny and on a chief argent a fleur-de-lis between two crosses formy gules.

Tole Semestre. Name. (See PENDS for device.)

Originally submitted as Tola Séamestre, this submission was changed to meet the submitter's request for authenticity for 11th c. England.

Volk the Grey. Name and device. Vert, a wolf ululant between seven mullets 3, 2, and 2 argent.

Originally blazoned Vert, a wolf ululant and four mullets of five points and in chief three mullets of five points, argent, we have revised the blazon so that it accurately describes the position of the mullets, which is important to the submitter. Additionally, we note that the default mullet has five points, and thus specifying that in the blazon is unnecessary. Note: this device appeared on the Octover 2011 ILoI; it was pended to await receipt of the submitter's name paperwork.

Lions Blood has returned the following items for further work.

Muireagáin the Keith. Name and device. Sable, on a chevron Or between two doves volant and a stag's head erased in base argent, three Latin crosses gules

While documentation was located showing variants of the given name in period, commentary was unanimous on the appearance of pretense conveyed by the byname. Changing the byname from "the X" to "of Clan X", for example, would resolve the issue. The submitter is urged to consult with a herald to obtain stronger documentation for both name elements.

Lacking a name with which to associate it, this device must be returned as well. On resubmission, it is recommended the submitter draw the crosses, doves, and stag's head larger, to better fill the space and increase identifiability. In addition, the erasure of the stag's head should have more points (targetting at least 3). As a note, the crosses presented on this item are not Latin crosses, but with their equal and flared arms more resemble crosses formy. Without the flared arms, they would be Greek crosses. Given that these crosses are a group of more than one, we believe they do not run afoul of the current protections afforded the International Committee of the Red Cross.

Nigel Compton. Device. Lozengy argent and azure, a lute gules.

This item is returned for conflict with Rhiannon Bjornsdottir, (Fieldless) A gittern gules, registered September 2000 via Trimaris. There is only CD for fieldless vs. fieldless armory.

Reitz von Landesehre. Device. Paly azure and argent, a wolf rampant Or and a chief embattled sable.

This item is returned for redraw. As presented, there are too few pales to be called paly -- we need at least one more pale. We reference the following precedent:

Argent, two pallets gules overall a tree vert. This does not conflict with the important non-SCA arms of O'Connor Don ... Argent, a tree eradicated vert. Armory using three or more pallets is interchangeable with paly on visual grounds and on grounds of historical heraldic difference. Armory using two pallets is visually distinct from paly, and evidence was neither presented nor found that paly and two pallets should be considered artistic variants of each other in period. This is therefore clear of O'Connor Don by RfS X.1 for adding a primary charge group (the pallets). [Floris van Montfort, 05/02, A-Drachenwald]

As such it must be considered as Azure, two pallets argent surmounted by a wolf rampant Or, a chief embattled sable. So blazoned, contrast issues exist with a sable chief on an azure field. The issue would not arise with a neutral field, which paly azure and argent would present.

Lions Blood has pended the following items.

Tole Semestre. Device. Per chevron vert and azure, three needles bendwise sinister and a pawprint argent.

The needles need to be touched up for visibility. Sable chime also notes that the follow precedent applies, which means this needs to be re-checked with the needles and pawprint as co-primaries.

Ia ingen Áeda. Device. Per chevron gules and argent, three mullets of six points in chevron argent and a quatrefoil gules.

This was pended on the January 2008 LoAR.

As two types of charges lying on either side of a line of division, this is four co-primary charges, not a primary and three secondary charges. There is no way the quatrefoil could be the sole primary without having it overlie the line of division. We apologize to the submitter that the advice given previously was incorrect. Please direct the submitter to draw the mullets and the quatrefoil of more equivalent size.

This item was registered on the September 2008 LoAR via Northshield.

1: Ánothrán Ó Murchada - New Name

• Submitter desires a male name.
• No major changes.
• Language (not specified) most important.
• Culture (not specified) most important.
• Meaning (not specified) most important.

The submitter's branch is Dragon's Mist. He desires a male name, will not accept major changes, and cares most about meaning and language/culture (not specified).

Ánrothán - from Mari's 'Index of Names Found in Irish Annals' - see http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Anrothan.shtml. This spelling is appropriate for both Old and Middle Irish Gaelic (nominative form). Dated to 770, 885, 925, 934, 987.

Murchada - same source, sn Murchad/Murchadh - see http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Murchad.shtml. This spelling appropriate for Old and Middle Irish Gaelic (genitive form). 15 occurrences between 715 and 1591.

2: Aoife inghean Paidín - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• Client requests authenticity for 13th Century Scottish.
• Sound ("EE-Fuh ingen FATtin") most important.
• Language most important.
• Culture most important.

The submitter's branch is Adiantum. She cares most about sound (EE-fuh ingen FATtin) and language/culture. She would like her name made authentic for 13th c. Scotland.

Aoife - from Mari's Annals dated between 1166-1227. http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Aife.shtml - this spelling is the Early Modern Irish nominative form.

Paidín - Mari's Annals dated 1165-1589. http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Paidin.shtml - this spelling is the EMI genitive form.

2: Aoife inghean Paidín - New Device

Argent, a bee Or marked sable and on a chief azure three dogwood blossoms argent

3: Crínóc Donn - New Badge

(Fieldless) On an amphora argent, a goutte de vin

The submitter's branch is Aquaterra. Submitter's name was registered in May 2005 via An Tir; submitter has two pieces of registered armory already.

4: Iohannes map Madoc - New Name

• Submitter desires a male name.
• No major changes.
• Client requests authenticity for 10th century Welsh.
• Language (Welsh) most important.
• Culture (Welsh) most important.

The submitter's branch is Glyn Dwfn.

<Iohnnes> is the Latin form of John, which is Biblical in nature. Biblical names in the submitter's time frame appeared in documents in Latin, as demonstrated in Bartrum, Early Welsh Genealogical Tracts (Harleian MS. 3859); Catman map Iacob map Beli. Other Biblical names can be seen in Tangwystl's article, "The First Thousand Years of British Names" (http://www.heatherrosejones.com/names/welsh/1000british/1000llandav.html#app4).

Also shown in the Bartrum example is the use of <map> as a connector, which predates the use of <ap>.

<Madoc> is found in Tangwystl's article "A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names" (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welsh13.html).

5: Marcus Octavius Rufus - New Name

• Submitter desires a male name.
• No major changes.
• Sound ('Rufus' is most impt element) most important.

The submitter's branch is Coeur du Val. He will not accept major changes, cares most about sound (the element 'Rufus') and desires a male name.

Construction (praenomen/nomen/cognomen) from http://legionxxiv.org/nomens/ which is linked from heraldry.sca.org

"Marcus" & "Rufus" from site above

"Octavius" from "Nova Roma" site - http://novaroma.org/nr/Gens_Octavia_(Nova_Roma) - describes history of the 'Gens' and gives examples of individuals in Roman times with this nomen.

6: Melannei Athenaiaes - New Name

• Sound (MELL-uh-nay) most important.

Submitter's branch is Terra Pomaria. She accepts all changes, cares most about sound (MELL-uh-nay) and does not care about the gender of her name.

Both names from LGPN - search at http://www.lgpn.ox.ac.uk/database/lgpn.php

Intended as "Melannei, the Athenian" - ideally femine but gender not crucial - please correct declension as needed!

7: Morrine Alaxandair - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• Sound most important.

Morrine - in Mari's "Names found in Anglicized Irish Docs" sn Murrine dated 1601 - http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Feminine.shtml

Alexandair - same source sn Alexander - http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Masculine.shtml. This spelling is appropriate for EMI genitive form. http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Alaxandar.shtml cites individuals with this spelling between 1485 and 1503.

(intended as patronymic surname - if not correct form submitter ok w/insertion of words necessary for appropriate construction)

7: Morrine Alaxandair - New Device

Argent, a hummingbird rising vert between three triquetras purpure

8: Robert of Wolford - Resub Device

Sable, a wolf rampant ermine and a ford proper

The submitter's branch is Three Mountains.

His most recent previous submission (Sable, a wolf rampant to sinister ermine maintaining in the sinister paw a bow bendwise and in the dexter a sheaf of arrows inverted argent) was returned by Laurel in April 2011:

This device is returned for conflict with the device of Dorcas Dorcadas, Sable, a three-headed hound rampant contourny, one head reguardant, argent. There is no CD granted for the number of heads by precedent: "...the change from one head to three heads is not sufficient for another CD." [Rodrigo Hernandez de Toledo, December 1997, R-Atlantia] There is only a single CD for the change of tincture of the primary charge from argent to ermine.

Please instruct the submitter that, in order to avoid confusion with heraldic lions and tygers, that the wolf should be drawn with its ears more erect and with less appearance of having a lion's mane. The illustration in Parker (http://www.heraldsnet.org/saitou/parker/Jpglossw.htm#Wolf) shows a smooth neck, more typical of heraldic wolves.

An earlier submission was returned by Lions Blood in June 2009:

Sable, a wolf queue forchy counter-rampant, maintaining in the sinister paw a bow bendwise and in the dexter a sheaf of arrows inverted argent.

This device is being returned for numerous conflicts: Seth Comyn (February 2007): Sable, a wolf rampant contourny between three crescents argent, with one clear difference for removing the secondary charge group but nothing for maintained charges nor for the changes to the tail; Kelly of Settmour Swamp (August 1995): Sable, an Irish wolfhound and a stag combattant argent, with one clear difference for removing half the primary charge group, the first of two combatant charges is 'rampant to sinister'; Dorcas Dorcadas (September 1973): Sable, a three-headed hound rampant, one head reguardant, argent, langued gules, with one clear difference for changing the direction it's facing but nothing for the heads. There are several precedents stating that a two headed eagle is no different than a one headed one. There is also this precedent from the tenure of Jaelle of Armida: [a three-headed hydra vs a dragon] Details of the dragons, including number of heads... count for nothing. (Thomas Grayson of Falconridge, 3/98 p. 22). It also conflicts with Judith Jehana di Ettore (June 1990): Per bend sinister gules and sable, a fox rampant to sinister argent, with only one clear difference for the change to the field.

As well it is hard to identify as a wolf. This resembles a wolf-headed lion queue forche than a wolf queue forche, given the way the paws are drawn and the tail is drawn, and the implication of a mane.

9: Sadb Hálsdottir - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No major changes.

Sabd - from Mari's Annals Index, MIG form, dated between 1048 - 1584. http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Sadb.shtml

If EMI form Sadhbh is more appropriate, submitter is fine w/that.

Hálsdottir - Háls from GB p.11 (formation for patronymic from names ending in S unclear - request help from College)

9: Sadb Hálsdottir - New Device

Per bend vert and Or, a bend between a drakkar and a mortar and pestle counterchanged

Thus ends the January 2012 Internal Letter of Intent.

I remain,

yours in service,

Rhieinwylydd verch Einion Llanaelhaearn

Boar No More!

An Tir OSCAR counts: 7 New Names, 3 New Devices, 1 New Badge. This gives 11 new items. Resub counts: 1 Resub Device. This is a total of 1 resubmission on this letter, for a total of 12 actions.

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