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An Tir IL dated 2011-03-04 (Jump to Submissions)

Unto Anthony Black Lion, Elizabeth Lions Blood, and everyone else, come greetings from Rhieinwylydd Boar. I thought you all should know that as soon as I publish this letter, I'm going to go make a heraldic cheesecake. Jealous? :)

Commentary on this letter is due April 10, 2011.

LIONS BLOOD MEETINGS

February Letter - Saturday, March 26. Will be held in Adiantum or in Coeur du Val; watch the e-list for an announcement.

March Letter - TBD. Watch the e-list!

FROM LIONS BLOOD

Greetings unto the College of Heralds from Elizabeth Lions Blood!

I want to remind everyone that I am still seeking a deputy to learn my job and take over for me when the time comes. It is so much easier to be Lions Blood when you have the time to learn the job hands on and absorb it piece by piece. Please think about serving your Kingdom in this way! It is really a rewarding experience.

Three cheers for Constance Wyatt, Town Cry Pursuivant, for her entrance into the Order of the Goutte de Sang at Winter's End in Terra Pomaria on February 25th! Huzzah!

Another reminder: if you live in Tir Righ, I do not get your submissions. Please send them to Silver Yale so she can train their new submissions herald. Details can be found on the Tir Righ Heralds website. Contact Silver Yale for details.

Thank you, thank you, thank you to all my commentary heralds, and an especial thank you to Rhieinwylydd Boar, Aodh Motley and Toki Sinister Gauntlet for making my life in this job easier while my real world job tries to eat me alive :) You are all appreciated more than I can ever express.

In service to An Tir,

Lady Elizabeth Turner de Carlisle, GdS

Lions Blood Herald

LAUREL ACTIONS

The following is excerpted from the December 2010 Laurel Letter.

From Laurel: LoAR RSS Feed

For those who use some form of RSS reader and want to be notified when the LoARs are placed on the archive on the Laurel web site, an RSS feed has been created. It is located at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/loar.rss

Note that the archive contains the same documents, but is updated after the LoARs are sent to the mailing lists on scadian.net

From Laurel: Magen David Adom

In May of 2010, Laurel protected the motif A single gules Star of David on any argent background or in any way that could be displayed on an argent background (such as a fieldless badge), saying "By treaty, the symbol of the Magen David Adom has the same protection as the symbols of the Red Cross, of the Red Crescent, and of the Red Crystal."

Normally, we only protect the exact form of a badge or logo we consider important non-SCA armory (in this case, Argent, a Star of David gules). One exception to this principle is the motifs protected by treaty as the symbols of International Committee of the Red Cross. We protect these motifs more broadly, restricting the use of any design with the motif A single gules <charge> (cross couped, decrescent, mascle) on any argent background or in any way that could be displayed on an argent background. The similar restriction of a gules Star of David was based on the understanding that it too was protected by these treaties. Daniel de Lincoln presented clear evidence that the symbol of the Magen David Adom is not so protected, and that in fact, the International Committee of the Red Cross has explicitly declined to give it that protection. Therefore, we have no justification for giving the gules Star of David the same protection as the motifs protected by the International Committee of the Red Cross.

The badge of the Magen David Adom is important enough to protect and will continue to be protected; it is listed under the LAUREL section of this LoAR.

From Laurel: Non Scriptum, Non Est

In the last six months, the Laurel office has received submissions with an unacceptable problem twice, from two different kingdoms. In each, the Letter of Intent reported that kingdom had changed a name submission, but the submissions form included no sign of that originally submitted form. We are not sure whether the kingdom submissions heralds prepared new forms because of the change, the submitter was talked out of an original submission and filled out paperwork with the name recommended by the kingdom consultation, or something completely different. This cannot be tolerated. We are required by long policy to only consider the information the submitter includes in writing. So, please, don't prepare new name forms. Please, do make sure that all relevant information about modifications and the submitter's intent is included on the submissions form itself. Otherwise, we're going to have to start making administrative returns.

Armory is a different matter. Here, new forms may be prepared, with the submitter's approval of the artwork. This is because a piece of armory cannot be modified on the old forms. Be sure that all information the submitter provided, including their attempted blazon, is transferred to the new form. The fact that the provided emblazon is a redraw with submitter approval should be mentioned on the LoI.

From Pelican: Transliteration and Old Norse

In June of 2010, we asked for commentary on the question of what forms of Old Norse names we should register. Commentary was interesting and insightful; my thanks to all who weighed in. At the moment, we allow the registration of documentary forms found in the Latin alphabet as well as "standardized" Old Norse, a 19th century scholarly construction that attempts to clearly indicate the pronunciation of Old Norse. We asked whether we should add two additional forms: a non-scholarly version of standardized Old Norse that includes some but not all of the special characters and some transcriptions of runic forms that were not recorded in the Latin alphabet.

Commentary regarding the first point was resoundingly positive. We will allow the registration of Old Norse names in simplified versions of standardized Old Norse; for example, a simplification that uses o for both o and {o,} or one that uses th for both þ and ð. Therefore spellings like Bjorn will be registerable as Old Norse spellings. This does not allow the use of Anglicized forms, such Erik for Eiríkr.

On the second point, things are a bit more complicated. While we encourage submitters to use runic forms of their names, we cannot register forms written in runes, as that would make it essentially impossible to conflict check. Even direct one to one transcriptions of runes are problematic, as the same rune is often used to represent multiple sounds. Therefore, we require a transliteration that represents the pronunciation of the name, just as we require transliterations of Arabic to include vowels, even though the words as written in medieval Arabic generally only record the consonants.

On the other hand, runic spellings, such as those recorded in Lena Peterson's Nordiskt runnamslexikon, preserve pronunciations that were never recorded in the Latin alphabet. This is especially true for forms from Old East Norse, which is poorly represented in Latin alphabet documents compared to Old West Norse. Therefore, we will register forms of runic names that have been transcribed following a standard scholarly system, such as the header forms in Lena Peterson's work. We will not, however, accept "invented" transcriptions based on a submitter's proposal of how to transcribe runic names.

From Pelican: Talking about (my) Documentation

This ongoing series about sources and problems in documentation is getting hijacked this month to discuss how we talk about documentation. The term documented is used for two independent ideas. First, it refers to the broad idea of demonstrating that the submitter may use a particular element: one may, for example, speak of documenting that Lilie is a submitter's legal name. Second, it refers to the idea that a particular element is dated to before 1650. In the draft rules, we are trying to separate these two ideas by using documented for the broad idea and attested to refer to the idea that an element is found in period. We encourage you to do the same.

Things get more complicated as we move from clearly attested elements to elements that are created in various ways. Again, we have vocabulary to discuss that creation, depending on how closely the submitted element matches attested forms. One common pattern for submissions is to create a spelling variant of an attested name by using either multiple attested forms or information about spelling variation in other attested forms. For example, in this month's acceptances, we registered Kirsten on the basis of Kristen and Kyrstin, two forms of the same name attested in the 15th century according to Lind. We call this creation of spelling variants interpolation.

Finally, we come to constructed names. We say that a name is constructed if it takes elements that are attested to period, but puts them together to make a name that is not attested. These include bynames that are constructed from attested given names (so taking an attested Bjartmarr to construct a patronymic byname Bjartmarsson), while others take two elements (from a dithemic name like Ælfmund - made up of Ælf- and -mund or a placename like Sheepford, made up of Sheep- and -ford).

From Wreath: Tudor Roses

A submission pended from the May 2010 LoAR asked whether or not we wanted to reduce the protection on Tudor roses. The protection, as it has been stated until now, is as follows:

The combination of a rose argent and a rose gules, whether as a double rose (on a rose, a rose) or in some other manner which creates a half-white, half-red rose. [Glossary of Terms, http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html]

Research done as part of this submission indicates that half-white, half-red roses were also used by many other families. The badge of the Tudors seems to appear in only six forms, all of which were used by other families:

  • A double rose gules and argent or argent and gules

  • A rose quarterly either in argent and gules or gules and argent.

  • A rose per pale either in argent and gules or gules and argent.

We are, therefore, removing the restriction on using half-white and half-red roses as part of a larger armorial design. We are registering those six badges to the Tudors, as they are important period badges, but we will no longer restrict their use entirely.

Note that this does not remove the issue of presumption. The combination of the surname Tudor with armory which incorporates half white and half red roses may be considered to violate our rules on presumption and pretense, but we will not decide that issue at this time.

From Wreath: Chevrons, Per Chevron, and Their Inversions

For many years now, depictions of chevrons and the per chevron line of division have gotten progressively more problematic in our perceptions as we examine period depictions of chevrons. We frequently see submissions for per chevron which are the bottom quarter of a per saltire field, rising no further than the center of the field. This issue is exacerbated by the fact that the bend/saltire tickmarks on the field are being mis-interpreted as being guidelines for drawing per chevron fields.

We would like to discuss putting limitations on the depiction of chevrons and per chevron fields in armory. The following proposal is intended to serve as a starting point for the conversation. If we adopt any revised standard, we do not expect to adopt it as written here:

In period, per chevron divisions and chevrons frequently extend nearly to the top of the field. There should not be room for a primary or large secondary charges above the tip of a chevron or per chevron field. Sumbmissions including these items will not be registered. This also holds for large charges below the tip of chevrons inverted and per chevron inverted. If the charge is alone on that side of division, it probably falls under this rule. Exceptions will be made for narrow charges placed fesswise in chief.

The chevron, chevron inverted, per chevron line of division, or per chevron inverted line of division, measured from the point to the furthest extent against the field, should be more than one third of the height of the field. It may slide up or (less frequently) down on the field in period, to make room for any surrounding charges.

From Wreath: Color-Correcting Scans

This month, we considered submissions where the color 'scan' on OSCAR had obviously been colorized: both of the paper forms we received had been colored with markers and the scanned image had smooth, uniform colors bordered by a fringe of anti-aliasing from a paint program fill. We remind submissions heralds that computer-correcting the color scan has been cause for return since March 2009. Fortunately, all the submissions which exhibited this issue were returned for other reasons, and we did not have to penalize submitters for the mistakes of their kingdom submissions herald. Please, for your submitter's sake, do not do this.

From Wreath: Emblazons and Crayons

We have repeatedly asked kingdom submissions heralds not to send submissions forms colored with crayon for many years, and we keep receiving them. Submissions colored with wax-based color such as crayon will be returned administratively starting with the May 2011 Laurel meetings, and the forms will be discarded. We are taking this step because the wax will melt and bond many pages together, which destroys the archives. While efforts will be made to get a new set of forms from Kingdom, please replace them before this step must be taken.

 

LAUREL REGISTERED THE FOLLOWING ITEMS IN DECEMBER 2010

Aleyn Wykington. Device. Azure, a set of bagpipes and a chief argent.

Basilius Fuchs. Name.

This name was originally returned in February of 2010, upholding a 2006 precedent that the byname Fuchs is offensive. This appeal challenged that precedent, arguing that Fuchs is not offensive. Commenters unanimously agreed that this precedent should be overturned.

Fuchs is a German byname with the inoffensive meaning "fox." Any understanding of it as an offensive word depends on mispronunciation or misreading (the vowel sound in the name approximates the sound in 'hook'). The idea that Fuchs is not inherently offensive is further supported by the fact that we registered Fuchs as a byname as recently as 1993 without comment, and have registered slightly modified forms such as der Fuchs and Fuchsyn more recently.

Likewise, we have not held other name elements to this kind of standard; in August of 2002 we registered Daimhin Bastard, saying that the fact that some people may see it as 'damn bastard' is not a bar to registration. The Letter of Intent points out that we have registered bynames that bear a similar relationship to other obscenities without comment.

Given all of these considerations, we are overturning the existing precedent and ruling that Fuchs is not offensive and registering the name as submitted.

Cedric Helmcleaver. Reblazon of device. Argent, a bend vert, overall in pale an axe fesswise reversed gules cleaving a Norman helm sable.

Blazoned when registered as Argent, a bend vert, overall a Norman helm sable cleaved by an axe fesswise reversed gules, the axe is a sustained charge.

Gaius Octavius Lunaris. Name and badge. Per bend sinister wavy purpure and argent, a bend sinister wavy counterchanged and a bordure per bend sinister argent and purpure.

The submitter requested authenticity for the 4th Century. Metron Ariston explains that it is authentic.

While other name constructions existed in the fourth century, the tria nomina continued to be used, particularly in formal documents and inscriptions. A few well-documented examples from the political and literary sphere are noted below. The praenomen Gaius remained popular in both pagan and Christian circles throughout the fourth century. Gaius Vettius Aquilinus Juvencus, a priest of Spanish origin, is famed as the author of the first specifically Christian epic poem, a rendition of the four Gospels in epic hexameters which appeared around 330 A.D.

The documentation for the fourth century use of the nomen Octavius, common in the Republican period and closely associated with the early Julio-Claudian emperors, is somewhat less abundant. However, the nomen was clearly still in use in the second quarter of the fourth century when inscriptions in the largest baths at Ostia document restoration work financed by Flavius Octavius Victor, praefectus annonae at some point in time after 331 A.D., according to the report on the surviving antiquities of Ostia on line at http://www.ostia-antica.org/regio1/12/12-6.htm.

The submitted cognomen Lunaris is relatively uncommon, but still fairly well-documented. Kajanto's Roman Cognomina adds a bit more information. In the detailed lists Kajanto gives inscriptional evidence for this cognomen. The latest citation (CIL XIII 4333) appears to be from the tomb of a doctor in northern Europe. While the date of this is somewhat uncertain, taken with the remaining inscriptional material, it is clear that the cognomen can be dated firmly to at least the middle of the third century A.D.

To summarize, the praenomen and nomen can be firmly dated to the fourth century A.D. and the cognomen, while positively dated only to the century before, appears to be compatible with the relatively late date for which the submitter requested authenticity.

The authenticity request was not mentioned on the Letter of Intent. In this case, we had enough information to respond to that request. We remind submissions heralds that if commentary is not sufficient to allow such a request to be addressed, the item must be pended in order to allow that commentary.

Geralt Mac Aodha. Name.

Gryffyth ap Madyn. Name (see RETURNS for device).

Gustav Man Lorne. Name and device. Argent, a bend vert and overall a catamount's head couped contourny sable.

This device is clear of the device of Cedric Helmcleaver, Argent, a bend vert, overall in pale an axe fesswise reversed gules cleaving a Norman helm sable, reblazoned elsewhere in this letter. The axe is a sustained charge, so there are three CDs between the devices, one each for the change of type, number, and tincture of the overall charge group.

Hafr-Tóki. Name and device. Sable, a chevron rompu inverted Or.

This name consists of a given name, Tóki, and a byname Hafr; thus it does not fall afoul of our requirement that names have a given name and a byname.

Johannes Kai von Buxtehude. Name.

The Letter of Intent asked for help documenting Kai. Commenters were able to date a Kai R. v. Rantzau to 1644 (Seibecke, s.n. Kai). Therefore this can be registered as a completely German name.

Taran MacAngus. Device. Argent, a harp reversed sable and on a chief vert three crosses couped argent.

LAUREL RETURNED THE FOLLOWING ITEMS FOR FURTHER WORK IN DECEMBER 2010

Gryffyth ap Madyn. </a> Device. Azure, a dolphin naiant maintaining in its mouth an arrow bendwise inverted and in chief three harps Or.

Blazoned on the LoI as urinant, that position would have the body predominantly palewise, with the head pointing down. The position of the tail generally doesn't count and the body of this monster is mostly fesswise. Therefore, this device is returned for conflict with the device of Jehanne de Kael, Azure, a whale naiant Or. There is a single CD for the addition of the secondary charge group. No difference is granted for the maintained arrow. Since a whale does not appear to have been used in period arms, the difference between a heraldic whale and a heraldic dolphin is determined visually. The differences between the two are minor enough that we are not willing to grant a CD.

Somerled of Ballindore. </a> Device. Checky azure and argent, a dragon volant en arrière vert.

This device is returned because, by precedent, dragons are not allowed to be in this posture:

[Three dragons volant] There is no defined volant posture for quadrupeds. [Little Brùsi of Dragon Vale, 12/91]

Unfortunately, there is no standard default depiction for monsters volant in the Society (the issue tends not to arise in mundane heraldry!) and the body position tends to vary somewhat. [Sofiya Germanovna Tumanova, 07/88]

The difficulty here is that the position of a winged beast volant is ill defined. We can recall instances of bodies courant and springing, and would doubtless find others if we searched the files. Since body position has been left to the caprice of the artist, we see no alternative but to disallow this, except in the most extreme cases, as a source of difference. It is our recommendation that, in the future, no winged beast be blazoned as "volant." "Passant, wings elevated and addorsed" (or whatever) with a stricture to the designers to place their beasts in suitably heraldic positions to begin with would avoid such ambiguities in future coats. [Jon of Harriston, 08/86]

This device has the dragon in the posture volant en arrière, a variant of volant for insects. It is not a posture that monsters may use.

 

The following items have been forwarded to Laurel and are tentatively scheduled to be decided on in May 2011

Fortune verch Thomas. New Name & New Device. Vert, a brock passant and in chief three dogwood blossoms argent.

Gaius Octavius Lunaris - Resub Device. Per bend sinister wavy purpure and argent, a bend sinister wavy counterchanged between a tyger salient argent and a rose purpure barbed, slipped and leaved vert, a bordure counterchanged

Karie Wen ferch Morgan - New Name

Kseniia Nikolaeva doch' -New Name & New Device. Or, a double-headed eagle displayed azure, maintaining in dexter claw a closed scroll bendwise sinister and in sinister claw a feather, a bordure gules

Martin von München - New Name

Nicolai Raben von Tachov - New Name & New Device. Per bend sinister sable and vert, a raven migrant and a stag rampant argent

Nyvein Dyfnawal - New Name

Summits, Principality of the - New Heraldic Title. Regne le sagés Pursuivant

Summits, Principality of the - New Heraldic Title. Silver Mountain Pursuivant

Summits, Principality of the - New Heraldic Title. Plume d'Or Pursuivant

Summits, Principality of the - New Heraldic Title. Juste Veue Pursuivant

Summits, Principality of the - New Heraldic Title. Silver Lark Pursuivant

Tófa Eiríksdóttir - New Name

Vestina Antonia Aurelia - New Name & New Device. Argent, a sinister fist sable and on a chief gules a crescent Or

 

Lions Blood has Pended the Following Submission

Sophia Francesca Bruno - New Name & New Device. Gules, a bear sejant erect maintaining a mullet and on a chief Or an arm erased gules

The submitter's documentation supports the spelling of <Sofia>, and the mullet on her device is incorrectly drawn (too small, and detailed as a pentacle). The submission has been pended for clarification with the submitter and redrawing.

1: Adelaide de Honfleur - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• Culture (10th-11th c Normandy) most important.

The submitter's branch is Borealis. She will accept all changes, cares most about language/culture (10th-11th c. Normandy), and desires a female name.

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form.

<Adelaide> found in A History of France: From the Earliest Times to the Fall of the Second Empire in 1870 by W.H. Jervis, MA. Published 1884. Chapter VI, the Later Carolingians: from the treaty of Verdun to the accession of Hugh Capet (843-987 AD). P 92.

<Honfleur> found in Historical Memoirs of the House of Russell: From the Times of the Norman Conquest by Jeremiah Holmes Wiffen. Published by Longman, Ress Orme, Brown, Green and Longman, 1833. Chapter I, 1066-1098: from the earliest known period to the crusade. p. 14.

Copies of the relevant pages are included with the submission.

1: Adelaide de Honfleur - New Device

Per fess sable and gules, a hind at gaze argent above three roses argent barbed and seeded proper

2: Antonio Morosini - New Name

• Submitter desires a male name.
• No major changes.
• Sound (not specified) most important.
• Meaning (Venetian) most important.

The submitter's branch is Dragon's Mist. He will not accept major changes, cares most about sound (not specified) and language/culture (Venetian/Italian), and desires a male name.

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form.

<Antonio> is documented to 14th c. Italy in St. Gabriel report 3139.

<Morosini> is found in "Fifteenth Century Venetian Masculine Names" at http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/venicefamalpha.html

2: Antonio Morosini - New Device

Sable, a bend purpure fimbriated and in sinister canton a maltese cross argent

3: Bryson McLachlan - New Name

• Submitter desires a male name.
• Culture (Scotland, period flexible but prefer later) most important.
• Meaning (association with Lachlan family) most important.

The submitter's branch is Midhaven. He will accept all changes, cares most about meaning (association with Lachlan family) and language/culture (Scotland, period flexible but prefer later), and desires a male name.

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form.

<Bryson> is the submitter's legal name.

<McLachlan> documented in Black (The Surnames of Scotland) s.n. MacLachlan. Various spellings dated 1066-1600.

It is believed that <McLachlan> is sufficiently different from the submitter's legal last name of <McCloughan>, pronounced mc-CLOO-an, to avoid the issue of registering the whole legal name.

A copy of the submitter's driver's license was included.

3: Bryson McLachlan - New Device

Per bend azure and sable, all estencely, a tyger rampant argent

4: Cynewulf Torunnsskald - New Name

The submitter's branch is Borealis. He will accept all changes and expresses no preferences regarding his name.

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form.

<Cynewulf> is an Anglo-Saxon name documented in St. Gabriel report 1920

<Torunn> is a coined Old Norse name; <Tor-> is based ON masculine names <Torfi>, <Torráðr>, and <-unn> based on <Þórunn>, <Jórunn> (all from Viking Names Found in the Landnamabok, http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html)

<skald> is based on <jarlsskáld> (meaning 'earl's skald'), from the same source.

No photocopies of the cited source were included with the submission.

4: Cynewulf Torunnsskald - New Device

Azure, an owl displayed between three mullets of seven points one and two, all within an orle argent

5: Daniel the Broc - New Name

• Submitter desires a male name.
• Culture (10th c. Norse) most important.

The submitter's branch is Borealis. He will accept all changes, cares most about language/culture (10th c. Jorvik Norse man), and desires a male name.

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form.

<Daniel> - Withycombe s.n. Daniel says it was used as a personal name beginning in the 12th c. and was common in 13th-14th c., but pre-conquest seems to have been used only for religious leaders

<the Broc> - Found in google summary of "Norse Byname" + "Landnamabok" Old Norse Names by Geir Bassi Haraldsson (Dr. Fleck) supports convention in style of <Name> the <Animal>.

5: Daniel the Broc - New Device

Per chevron vert and azure, a chevron argent between a badger argent marked sable statant and a water bouget argent

6: Dante Machiavelli - New Badge

Per bend sinister azure and sable, a bend sinister between two lacy knots argent

The submitter's name was registered in October 2009 via An Tir; his branch is Borealis.

7: Daveri della Cava - New Name

The submitter's branch is Borealis; she will accept all changes and expresses no preferences regarding her name.

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form.

<Daveri> - from Dauzat, Noms de Lieux,p. 241 sn <Davrey> dated to 1201

<della Cava> - from 14th c. Venetian Personal Names: Surnames, http://s-gabriel.org/names/arval/venice14/venice14sur.html

7: Daveri della Cava - New Device

Argent, three dragonflies bendwise sinister sable between flaunches azure

8: Francesca Morosini - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.

The submitter's branch is Dragon's Mist; she will accept all changes, cares most about spelling, and desires a female name.

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form.

<Francesca> - St. Gabriel report 1398 identifies this spelling as "a fine name for an Italian persona from the 13th c. onwards"

<Morosini> is found in "Fifteenth Century Venetian Masculine Names" at http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/venicefamalpha.html

8: Francesca Morosini - New Device

Argent, vetu ploye gules, a serpent nowed sable

The following letter of permission to conflict is included with the submission.

To whom it may concern,

I, (modern name), known in these Current Middle Ages as Robert of Woodsende, do hereby allow the party of (modern name of submitter), known in these Current Middle Ages as Maria Natalia Morosini, to use the likeness of my registered Device for her Heraldry. My arms are registered as follows: Or, vetu ploye vert, a serpent nowed, sable.

The letter is signed by Robert and by the Prince of the Mists, and dated April 20, 2010.

9: István Györi - New Name

• Submitter desires a male name.
• Sound (not specified) most important.
• Culture (10th c Magyar (Hungarian)) most important.

The submitter's branch is Lyonsmarche; he will accept all changes, cares most about sound (not specified) and language/culture (10th c. Magyar/Hungarian), and desires a male name.

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form.

<István> is from Hungarian Names 101 available at http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/magyarnames1012.html#men

<Györi> is intended as a locative meaning 'from the city Györ> (in the northwest of modern-day Hungary). The locative name format is discussed at http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/magyarnames1012.html; however, no documentation was provided for this specific locative.

The submitter acknowledges that Hungarian names were written with the given name second, but would like to register his name in the Western convention of given name first to avoid confusion. If this is not possible he will accept Györi István. He also notes that the ö in Györi should be a double accent, a character unique to the Hungarian alphabet and unavailable on most computers. (Note that the article on sca.org cited above uses <{o~}> for this character.)

10: Jennet MacLachlan of Loch Fyne - Resub NameFrom Holding Name

Old Item: Jennet of Myrtle Holt, to be released.

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No major changes.
• Culture (late 15th/early 16th c. Scottish) most important.

The submitter's branch is Myrtleholt; she will not allow major changes, cares most about language/culture (late 15th/early 16th c. Scottish), and desires a feminine name.

Her previous submission, Jennet MacLaughlan was returned by Laurel in January of 2010:

This conflicts with Jhone MacLachlan. The spelling Jhone was used by both men and women. Jennet is a diminutive of the feminine name Jhone, and so the two given names are not significantly different, per RfS V.1.a.i, which says, "Irrespective of differences in sound and appearance, a given name is not significantly different from any of its diminutives when they are used as given names."

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form

The given name "Jennet" is found in Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 1187 (Jennet Mac Dara). The report has the following to say about this given name: "<Jennet>, which we find recorded in 1567, is a Scot form of <Janet> [3], which in turn is a feminine form of the name <John>. We have no evidence that it was used in the 13th or 14th century… <Jennet> is a 16th century Scots name…."

Cite [3] is Talan Gwynek, "A List of Feminine Personal Names found in Scottish Records" (WWW: J. Mittleman, 1996). http://www.panix.com/~mittle/names/talan/scottishfem/scottishfemearly.html

Black (s.n. Maclachlan) dates <Maclachlan> to 1555-6

The Pont Maps (http://maps.nls.uk/pont/), made between 1580 and 1590, show <Loch Fyn> (see http://maps.nls.uk/pont/view/?id=pont17, far left hand side, about 25% way down from the top). The submitter would prefer the spelling <Fyne> if it can be justified.

11: Kassia Machiavelli - New Name

• Submitter has no desire as to gender.
• Sound (like Kasha) most important.
• Language (Italian) most important.

The submitter's branch is Borealis. She will accept all changes, cares most about sound (similar to Kasha) and language/culture (Italian), and does not care about the gender of her name.

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form.

<Kassia> - from De Felice, Nomi, p. 10 s.n. Cassia, a 6th c. Saint.

<Machiavelli> - from De Felice, Nomi, p. 156 dated 1148. Author of the The Prince died 1537.

11: Kassia Machiavelli - New Device

Argent, a raven displayed sable maintaining a lute vert and on a chief embattled sable a crescent argent

12: Mairghread of Wastekeep - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No major changes.

The submitter's branch is Wastekeep; she will not accept major changes, cares most about spelling (not specified), and desires a female name.

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form.

<Mairghread> - OCM s.n. <Margreg> identify it as "relatively popular in Ireland after the 14th c."

<Wastekeep> is the name of a branch registered April 1986

12: Mairghread of Wastekeep - New Device

Azure, a sea horse Or maned gules maintaining a pearl and on a chief argent three Thor's hammers sable

13: Mergret Dyer - New Device

Azure, a garb Or, on a chief raguly argent three bees sable marked Or

The submitter's name was registered in October 2010 via An Tir. Her branch is Terra Pomaria. Her previous device submission, Azure, a garb Or and on a chief argent three bees volant sable marked Or, was returned by Lions Blood in August of 2010:

The device is returned for conflict with the armory of Phillipa Seton (August 1998 via AEthelmearc): Azure, a garb Or, on a chief argent three leaves bendwise sinister vert. There is a single CD for the cumulative changes to the tertiary charges. Changing the chief to Or and marking the bees argent is one way to clear this conflict. 

14: Octavia Laodice - New Name

• No major changes.
• Culture (Greek or Roman) most important.

The submitter's branch is Aquaterra. She will not accept major changes, cares most about language/culture (Greek or Roman), and desires a female name.

The following is quoted from the documentation section of the form.

<Octavia> occurs twice in the LGPN, once in volume I and once in vol 4. The form that appears is 'Oktabi'a (Boar sez: cannot get it to put in the greek letters. spelled as follows: smooth breathing mark, capital omicron, kappa, tau, alpha, beta, iota with an acute accent, alpha). You can find it at www.lgpn.ox.ac.uk/database/lgpn.php, sticking 'okt' in the search box, putting 'in beta code' for 'input of Greek' and 'in unicode' for 'display of Greek.' The submitted spelling is the Latinized version of the Greek name.

<Laodicea> is a town in Anatolia. It was a Greek colony, and 'Laodicea' is the Latinized spelling of its name. The submitted spelling appears as the byname of the wife of Quintus Tineius Sacerdos - Volusia Laodice, born c. 165.

14: Octavia Laodice - New Device

Vert, a crab Or sustaining to chief a county coronet argent

15: Octavia Laodice - New Badge

(Fieldless) On a county coronet vert a bezant

16: Peregrine Falconer the Navigator - New Name

• Submitter desires a male name.
• No major changes.

The submitter's branch is Borealis. He will not accept major changes and desires a male name.

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form.

<Peregrine> is dated to 1555 in Withycombe

<Falconer> - R&W, in use since 12th c.

<the Navigator> - epithet found in Webster's New Biographical Dictionary, p. 465, in reference to Prince Henry of Portugal, called "the Navigator," 1394-1460.

16: Peregrine Falconer the Navigator - New Device

Per pale Or and argent, a falcon close proper between three compass stars sable

17: Peregrine Falconer the Navigator - New Badge

(Fieldless) A falcon's leg couped a la quise argent charged with a compass star elongated to base sable

18: Siobhán garbh ingen Máel-dúin - New Name

• Meaning (Siobhán the wild, daughter of Máel-dúin) most important.

The submitter's branch is Adiantum. She will accept all changes, cares most about meaning (Siobhán the wild, daughter of Máel-dúin), and desires a female name.

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form.

<Siobhán> - St. Gabriel report 3344

<garbh> - from Index of Names Found in Irish Annals, http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/DescriptiveBynames/Garb.shtml

<ingen> - St. Gabriel report 1675

<Máel-dúin> - St. Gabriel report 2137

18: Siobhán garbh ingen Máel-dúin - New Device

Azure semy of estoiles, a chevron and in base a wolf ululant argent

19: Susan De Wynter - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No major changes.
• Sound (not specified) most important.

The submitter's branch is Three Mountains. She will not accept major changes, cares most about sound (not specified) and desires a female name.

The following is summarized from the documentation section of the form.

<Susan> - St. Gabriel report 3024 says this name "appears in English sources as early as the late 12th c."

<de Wynter> - R&W p. 496 includes Winter 1185, WynterBorn 1185, De wynterborn 1341, Wynterman 1312

19: Susan De Wynter - New Device

Azure, a horse passant and on a chief argent three escarbuncles azure

20: Suvia filia Hereberti - Resub Badge

(Fieldless) A griffin statant to sinister drinking from a goblet azure

The submitter's branch is Terra Pomaria. Her name was registered in August 2009 (via An Tir). Her previous badge submission, (Fieldless) A griffin statant drinking from a goblet azure, was returned by Laurel in November 2010:

In this badge, the goblet is a maintained charge. This badge is, therefore, returned for conflict with the badge of Richard de Montbrai, (Fieldless) A griffin passant azure. There is a single CD for comparing fieldless badges, but none for the maintained goblet or the slight change in posture.

Thus ends the March 2011 Internal Letter of Intent.

I remain,

yours in service,

Rhieinwylydd verch Einion Llanaelhaearn

Boar Pursuivant

An Tir OSCAR counts: 14 New Names, 14 New Devices, 3 New Badges. This gives 31 new items. Resub counts: 1 Resub Name, 1 Resub Badge. This is a total of 2 resubmissions on this letter, for a total of 33 actions.

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