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An Tir IL dated 2008-04-02 (Jump to Submissions)

Unto Christopher Black Lion and the esteemed members of the An Tir College of Heralds to whom this missive comes, Li Ban ingen Echtigeirn, Boar Herald, sends greetings and felicitations.

The following items are presented for your consideration.

Commentary on this letter is due on May 10th, 2008.

1: Adwen Wrenne - New Name

• Submitter has no desire as to gender.
• Sound (Ahdwen Ren) most important.

The submitter's branch is Ramsgaard.

The submitter will accept any changes, doesn't care about the gender of the name, cares most about the sound of the name (Ahdwen Ren) and expresses no interest in having the name be changed to be authentic. She will allow the creation of a holding name.

Adwen = an early feminine Welsh name; p. 6, Welsh Names for Children; Heini Gruffudd.

Wrenne = English family name dated to 1275; p. 504 s.n. Wren; Reany and Wilson.

1: Adwen Wrenne - New Device

Or, on a pale cotised azure, a sun argent.

2: Ælfwynn Spearheafoc - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• Language (Anglo Saxon vernacular or Latinized) most important.
• Culture (Anglo Saxon) most important.

The submitter's branch is Dregate.

The submitter desires a feminine name, will accept any changes and cares most about the language and culture of her name (Anglo Saxon vernacular or Latinized). She expresses no interest in having her name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

<Ælfwynn> is an Anglo Saxon feminine name - details to follow from Æstel. She will accept a Latinized form if necessary.

<Spearheafoc> is a byname derived from the Anglo Saxon given anem and nickname Spearh(e)afoc `Sparrowhawk' - R&W s.n. Sparrowhawk - the submitter prefers it as a nickname but will accept a patronymic form (marked as daughter preferred).

3: Aleksii Konstantinovich Chernoi - Resub Device

Per saltire gules and sable, a bear rampant maintaining a spear argent, a bordure Or.

The submitter's branch is Blatha an Oir.

The submitter's name was registered in December of 2005.

The submitter's previous device submission of Lozengy sable and gules, a bear rampant maintaining a spear argent enflamed within a bordure Or was returned by Kingdom in September of 2005 for violating RfS VIII2.b.iv: Armorial Contrast (field) and for violating RfS VIII.3.: Armorial Identifiability (fimbriation of the head of the spear with flame). A note recommends removing the flames and making the bordure wider.

4: Anne Claxton - New Device

Per Fess purpure, a fess Sable fimbriated, a handless cup Or, and a sprig of herb (sage) vert.

The submitter's branch is Grimwithshire.

The submitter's name was registered in May of 2005.

5: Aonghuis MacAonghuis - New Name

• Submitter desires a male name.
• No major changes.
• Language most important.
• Culture (Scottish) most important.

The submitter's branch is Aquaterra.

The submitter will not accept major changes, desires a male name and cares most about the language and/or culture of his name (Scottish). He expresses no interest in having his name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

<Aonghuis> is found under "MacInnes" in George Black's Surnames of Scotland, pg. 517.

<MacAonghuis> is found in the same source above.

The color emblazon was produced on a computer and printed out in color. The Or is distinctly orange.

5: Aonghuis MacAonghuis - New Device

Gyronny Or and gules, a stag leaping and a bordure sable

6: Arion the Wanderer - Resub Device

Or gouty de sang, on a pile throughout azure, a trident Or.

The submitter's branch is Dragon's Laire.

The submitter's name was registered in July of 2006.

The submitter's previous device submission of Azure, chaussé Or and gouty de sang, a trident Or was returned by Kingdom in February 2008 with the following text:

"This design appears to violate the following precedent on charged chaussé:

"[Or chaussé purpure, overall two stags combattant proper]

"The chaussé line of division, along with chapé and vetu, are different from other lines of divisions in that the outer portions never contained charges in period. Thus we can also not allow charges that overlap the outer portions. [Rurik Brattahildski, 05/00, R-Middle]

"Although at first it was thought that perhaps reblazoning would solve the problem as in a pile, a triangular chief or per chevron inverted; this is not a pile, because it issues from the top corners of the shield. Nor is it a chief triangular, because it is much too deep. Nor is it a per chevron inverted field division, because it does not issue from the sides of the field.

"I was able to find some encouraging documentation at first. John Guillim's Display of Heraldrie, London, 1611 showed an example of `Parted per Pyle in Point Or, and Sable;' the graphic showed a shield identical to yours with the pile extending to the corners of the shield but reading further noted; `Only the Pyle part of this Coat may be charged and no other part thereof.'

"A possible suggestion would be to remove the gouttes from the design but this is not a guarantee that it would not put the device in conflict."

7: Carlos Luis Lancero - New Badge

On a field divided per pale azure and argent a chevron sable fembriated or.

The submitter's branch is Dragon's Laire.

The submitter's name was registered in August of 1981.

8: Constantia of the Lake - Resub Device

Azure, a dove Volant and on a chief dovetailed Or three doves Volant azure.

The submitter's branch is Madrone.

The submitter's name was forwarded to Laurel in March 2008 as Constantia in der lachen.

The submitter's previous device submission of the same blazon was returned by Kingdom in April of 2007 for administrative reasons (insufficient number of copies of the forms).

9: Elspeth nic Grath - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No major changes.
• Client requests authenticity for unspecified.
• Language most important.
• Culture most important.

The submitter's branch is Blatha An Oir.

The submitter will not accept major changes, desires a female name, and cares most about the language and/or culture of her name. She wishes her name changed to be authentic for an unspecified language/culture and time period.

The following is presented as the documentation for this name: "Elspeth is an early form of Elizabeth (Scottish). nic Grath literally means `Daughter of Grath.' Easy as pie!"

9: Elspeth nic Grath - New Device

Per Saltire Gules and Vert, a tortoise rampant sinister or, maintaining a thistle slipped and leaved

10: Ettrick the Silent - New Name

The submitter's branch is Appledore.

The submitter will accept any changes, expresses no preference as to gender, expresses no preference should his name have to be changed, does not wish his name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

The following is from the documentation and consultation notes section of the form:

"Name in use since 1977/1978 in the Barony of Lionsgate.

"Name mention in the North Wind many times. The North Wind is the News letter of the Barony of Lionsgate. Issue #177, Under Guilds, Practices et all, "Confraternity of St. Lawrence" Prince William I of Orange, Count of Nassau - Dillenburge, also was known as William the Silent.

"Ettrick is found in the Scottish Borders, "Ettrick Forest", see attach also there are other sites with the Ettrick, (Ettrick river, Ettrick road, and so on).

"Note: Device and name, may already be registered in the Kingdom of the West." [There is no registration for Ettrick the Silent listed in the O&A. - Lí Ban]

Attached are the following pages:

A depiction of "an engraving of William the Silent, Prince of Orange, who led a Dutch revolt against Spanish rule from 1573 until he was assinated in 1584." The page goes on to say that Prince William I of Orange was "widely known as William the Silent (Dutch: Willem de Zwijger)". It goes on to detail the reasons for his leading the Dutch revolt against the Spanish rulers. It also has the following: "There are several explanations for the origin of this nickname "William the Silent." The most common one is that he rarely spoke out clearly on controversial matters at the court or in public, or (by some accounts) even completely avoided speaking about such topics.[" [This appears to be copied and pasted from a webpage, but no URL is given. - Lí Ban]

Also included is a map of the Scottish Borders from http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/councils/region25.html with the Ettrick Forest circled and underlined.

A third attached page shows the submitter's name listed under the section of Guilds, Practices et al in the North Wind newsletter.

10: Ettrick the Silent - New Device

A Torteau at fess point Surrounded by an annulet of or Surrounded by an annulet of azure, Surrounded by an annulet of Or On a field of Azure, All of equal size at per fess

11: Geoffrey Albryght - Resub Device

Per bend sinister cotised and sable, a bend sinister cotised gules between a dragon rampant contourney and a tree eradicated counterchanged.

The submitter's branch is Three Mountains.

The submitter's name was forwarded to Laurel in November of 2007. His previous device submission of Per bend sinister argent and sable, a bend sinister between a dragon rampant contourny and a tree eradicated counterchanged was returned by Kingdom at the same time for conflict with Mariana Christina: Per bend sinister argent and sable, a bend sinister gules between a tower and a bear rampant counterchanged.

12: Katharine atte Moure - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No major changes.
• Sound (unspecified) most important.

The submitter's branch is Lionsgate.

The submitter will not accept major changes, desires a female name and cares most about the sound (unspecified) of her name. She expresses no interest in having her name changed to be authentic. She will allow the creation of a holding name.

<Katharine> - Withycombe p. 186 "In 1148 Queen Matilda founded a collegiate church and hospital of St. Katharine."

<atte Moure> - R&W p. 313 s.n. Moor et. al. - Simon atte Moure dated 1332.

12: Katharine atte Moure - New Device

Gules, a chevron enhanced argent charged with five lozenges gules, in base a goose statant regardant argent.

13: Katla máni - New Name

• Meaning (byname meaning moon) most important.

The submitter's branch is Aquaterra.

The submitter will accept any changes, expresses no preference as to gender of the name and cares most about the meaning of the name (byname meaning moon). She expresses no desire to have her name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

<Katla> is a feminine given name found on p. 13 of Geirr Bassi.

<máni> is a byname meaning moon, found on p. 25 of Geirr Bassi.

13: Katla máni - New Device

Sable, in bend a decrescent and a cat sejant guardant argent.

14: Milisandia verch Watkyn - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No major changes.
• Language (Welsh) most important.
• Culture (14th century Welsh) most important.

The submitter's branch is Blatha An Oir.

The submitter will not accept major changes, desires a female name and cares most about the language and/or culture of her name (14th century Welsh). She expresses no interest in having her name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

Milisandia was found at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welsh13.html.

Reany & Wilson says that Watkin is a diminutive of Walter. Their dated examples include:

Adam Filius Walterkini, 1200

Watkin, 1252

Watkynge Lloode, 1623

John Watkyns, 1327

John Watkyn, 1552

Withycombe says the name Walter came to England with the conquest, so the name's use in Wales is probably due to English/Anglo-Norman influence.

14: Milisandia verch Watkyn - New Device

Per pale argent and azure, an oak tree proper and on a chief sable three bears sejant erect contourney argent.

15: Milisandia verch Watkyn - New Badge

Azure, a bear sejant erect contourney argent sustaining an oak branch proper.

The submitter's branch is Blatha An Oir.

The submitter's name may be found elsewhere on this letter.

16: Mýrún Bjarnardóttir - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• Meaning (last name to mean bear) most important.

The submitter's branch is Aquaterra.

The submitter will accept any changes, desires a female name, and cares most about the meaning of her name (last name to mean bear). She expresses no interest in having her name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

Mýrún is a feminine given name in Geirr Bassi (p. 13)

Bjorn is a masculine given name in Geirr Bassi (p. 8) this is the genitive form p. 18.

16: Mýrún Bjarnardóttir - New Device

Per bend sinister argent and Or, a brown bear statant proper.

17: Robert de Perceval - Resub Device

Argent, on a lozenge gules, a bear statant Argent and on a chief gules three crosses formee.

The submitter's branch is Aquaterra.

The submitter's name was forwarded to Laurel in December of 2007. His previous device submission of Argent, on a lozenge gules, a bear statant argent and on a chief gules three crosses pattee argent was returned by Kingdom at the same time for having the lozenge touching two sides of the field.

Included in the blazon section of the form is the note: "I was told that the college preferred formee to pattee for the time period. Please use whatever pleases the group."

18: Sylva Silfri (or Sylvia Silfri) - Resub Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No major changes.

The submitter's branch is Madrone.

The submitter's previous name submission of the same name was returned by Kingdom in January of 2006 for lack of documentation. The submitter's device submission of the same blazon was returned at the same time for lack of a name.

The submitter will not accept major changes, desires a female name, and cares most about the spelling of her name. She expresses no interest in having her name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

<Sylvia> - http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=741 St. Sylvia, Mother of St. Gregory the Great. The Church venerates the sanctity of Sylvia and Gordian, the parents of St. Gregory the Great. St. Sylvia was a native of the region of Sicily. After her death, the holy Pontiff had a picture of both his parents depicted in the Churhc of St. Andrew. In the sixteenth century, Pope Clement VIII had St. Sylvia inscribed in the Roman Martyrology.

<Silfri> - From Geirr Bassi Haraldsson "The Old Norse Name" (pg 27).

18: Sylva Silfri (or Sylvia Silfri) - Resub Device

Sable, a flame between two flaunches argent.

19: Tymothy of Dover - Resub Device

Azure, a ram rampant sustaining a flaming Staff of Asclepius argent

The submitter's branch is Dragon's Laire.

The submitter's name was forwarded to Laurel in March of 2008. His previous device submission of the same blazon was returned by Kingdom at the same time for redrawing of the flame (so that it touched the top of the rod) and the ram (moving it to the middle of the field).

20: Tymothy of Dover - New Badge

Fieldless, a ram rampant sustaining a Staff of Asclepius argent

The submitter's branch is Dragon's Laire.

The submitter's name was forwarded to Laurel in March of 2008.

An Tir OSCAR counts: 9 New Names, 9 New Devices, 3 New Badges. This gives 21 new items. Resub counts: 1 Resub Name, 7 Resub Devices. This is a total of 8 resubmissions on this letter, for a total of 29 actions.

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