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An Tir IL dated 2007-11-02 (Jump to Submissions)

Unto Christopher Black Lion and the esteemed members of the An Tir College of Heralds to whom this missive comes, Li Ban ingen Echtigeirn, Boar Herald, sends greetings and felicitations.

The following items are presented for your consideration.

Unless otherwise noted, all submitters will accept the creation of a holding name, if appropriate; has no desire for authenticity and allows any changes.

Commentary on this letter is due on December 10th, 2007.

1: Aulus Marius Castus - New Name

• Sound ("Marius - cognomen & praenomen not as important") most important.

The submitter's branch is Stromgard.

The submitter will accept any changes, expresses no preference as to the gender of the name, cares most about the sound of his name with the following note: "Marius - cognomen & praenomen not as important". He expresses no interest in having his name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

All elements are found in Legio XX's "Roman Names" at http://www.larp.com/legioxx/nomina.html.

<Aulus> is found in the list of praenomen.

<Marius> is found in the third column in the list of nomina.

<Castus> is found in the list of cognomina.

Photocopies of the article are included with the submission.

1: Aulus Marius Castus - New Device

Gules, a wyvern statant between three mullets Or and a gladius inverted proper.

2: Avacal, Principality of - New Order Name

The Order of Avacal

• Meaning (unspecified) most important.

The submitter's name was registered as Avacal, Crown Principality of in September of 1993 and updated to Avacal, Principality of in October of 1998.

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about the meaning of the name (unspecified) and expresses no interest in having the name changed to be authentic.

The following note is included in the documentation section of the forms: "We understand this conflicts. If it cannot be passed, we would like permission to use this and create a badge."

Also included is the following letter:

"The Order of Avacal

"This name may be unregisterable because of a technicality in the Rules for Submission.

"RfS 3.2.b reads: Non-Personal Names - Branch names, names of orders and awards, heraldic titles, and household names must consists of a designator that identifies the type of entity and at least one descriptive element.

"RfS 5.2.a reads: Difference of Descriptive Elements - A descriptive element is a word other than a designator, an article, a preposition, or the name of a branch of the Society.

"Because "Order of Avacal" consists of the designator "Order of thee" combined with the SCA branch name "Avacal", and has no "descriptive element", it may not be possible to register it.

"The College of Heralds considers some would-be order names ("Champions of Meridies", for examples) to be too generic to register, but obviously it's still okay to BE a champion of Meridies, and even for the Kingdom of Meridies to register a badge for the use of the champion of Meridies. Is the "Order of Avacal" a similarly generic order name?

"If we MAY give ourselves permission to conflict with our own Principality name, I, Annys Bradwardyn as Sanguinaris Herald with the permission of His Highness Steinn Vikingson hereby give that permission. We would like to pass the name if allowed. If we may not, we would like a letter from Laurel stating permission to use the name and submit a badge in the future."

The letter is signed by Annys Bradwardyn, Sanguinaris Herald, Steinn Vikingson, Prince of Avacal, and Gemma, Princess of Avacal.

The submission is also accompanied by a handwritten assertion of support which states: "We the undersigned support this Order name for the Princapality of Avacal. We accept major changes." It is signed by Gemma, Princess of Avacal, Steinn, Prince of Avacal and the following officers: A&S, Calendar, Royal Archer, Chatelaine and Seneschal.

Also included with this submission is a petition for registration of Award name which reads as follows: "We, Kvigr and Linnet, Prince and Princess of Avacal, affirm that we approve of the following award name submissions for the principality of Avacal. These submissions were also signed by our predecessors and by Avacal's major officers at an earlier date.

"The Awards names are as follows

"1) The Order of Avacal

"We realize this may be impossible to pass due to regulations but are aware that it would have been common usage in medieval times. We are hoping for approval from Laurel to use this name and create a device.

"2) The Order of the Red Gryphon of Avacal

"3) The Order of the White Towers of Avacal

"We will also accept:

"The Order of the White Tower of Avacal, if it must be a singular heraldic charge."

The letter is signed by Kvigr, Prince of Avacal and Linnet, Princess of Avacal.

3: Avacal, Principality of - New Order Name

The Order of the Red Gryphon of Avacal

• Meaning (unspecified) most important.

The submitter's name was registered as Avacal, Crown Principality of in September of 1993 and updated to Avacal, Principality of in October of 1998.

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about the meaning of the name (unspecified) and expresses no interest in having the name be changed to be authentic.

The note in the documentation area of the form reads as follows: "Fits the meta-pattern for heraldic charges."

Included with this submission is the following:

"The OED s.v. <griffin>, 1 says that <gryphon> is found from the 1500s onward, but I don't find an example of that spelling in the quotations.

"One could argue that <gryphon> is reasonable from the variants given. Here's the raw data from before 1650.

"1. A fabulous animal usually represented as having the head and wings of an eagle and the body and hind quarters of a lion.

"13.. K. Alis. 496 The griffon of him was agast.

"c1386 CAHUCER Knt.'s T. 1275 Lik a grifphon looked he aboute "[Lansd., Corpus & Hengw. MSS. griffon, Cambr. MS. grefoun].

"c1400 MANDEVILLE (Roxb.) xxix. 132 In þat land er many griffouns.. þai hafe þe schappe of ane egle before, and behind þe schappe of a lyoun.

"c1435 Torr.

"1481 CAXTON Myrr. II. iv. 69 The gryffons wylde whiche haue bodyes of lyouns fleyng.

"1567 J. MAPLET Gr. Forest 88 The Griphin is a Foule of plentifull and thicke fether, and foure footed withall.

"1601 CHESTER Love's Mart., Dial. clxviii, The Griffon is a bird rich-feathered, His head is like a Lion, and his flight Is like the Eagles.

"1620 QUARLES Feast for Wormes Propos., The Horse and Gryphin shall together sleepe. b. A representation or figure of a griffin, as in Heraldry, Sculpture, etc.

"13.. Coer de L. 2963 Off red sendel were her baneres. With three gryffouns depaynted wel.

"?a1400 Morte Arth. 3870 Qwat gome was he this with the gaye armes, With þis gryffoune of golde.

"1439 E.E. Wills (1882) 117 A Skochen of myn Armes..and ij Greffons to bere hit vppe.

"1460 Lybeaus Disc. 81 A scheld..Wyth a gryffoun of say.

"1552 Inv. Bexley in Archæol. Cant. VIII. 108 On cope of red with floures and griffens of gold.

"1640 YORKE Unions Hon. 119 A Griffin Sergreant Or.

"The OED s.v. red, a. and n.

"a1000 Riddles xxvii. 15 (Gr.) Se reada telg. C1175 Lamb. Hom. 83 Alse þe sunne scine{edh} þurh þe glesne ehþurl… {Ygh}if þet gles is red ho schine{edh} red.

"c1205 LAY. 15940 Þe oder is milcwhit..þe o{edh}er r?d alse blod.

"1297 R. GLOUC. (Rolls) 2786 Tueye grete dragons out of þis stones come, Þe on was red, þe oþer wyt.

"1377 LANGL. P. Pl. B. II. 12 Hir fungres were ffretted with golde wyre And there-on red [v.r. rede] rubyes as red as any glede."

Also included is a page from The Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry by Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme and Akagawa Yoshio. The relvant entry is: "GRIFFIN - A griffin, or gryphon, is a classical monster, with the head, wings and forefeet of an eagle, the hindquarters of a lion, and mammalian ears; period emblazons sometimes show it bearded as well. Its default posture is rampant, which when applied to griffins is termed "segreant" [326]. As an heraldic charge, the griffin dates from c.1280…."

The submission is also accompanied by a handwritten assertion of support which states: "We the undersigned support this Order name for the Princapality of Avacal. We accept major changes." It is signed by Gemma, Princess of Avacal, Steinn, Prince of Avacal and the following officers: A&S, Calendar, Royal Archer, Chatelaine and Seneschal.

Also included with this submission is a petition for registration of Award name which reads as follows: "We, Kvigr and Linnet, Prince and Princess of Avacal, affirm that we approve of the following award name submissions for the principality of Avacal. These submissions were also signed by our predecessors and by Avacal's major officers at an earlier date.

"The Awards names are as follows

"1) The Order of Avacal

"We realize this may be impossible to pass due to regulations but are aware that it would have been common usage in medieval times. We are hoping for approval from Laurel to use this name and create a device.

"2) The Order of the Red Gryphon of Avacal

"3) The Order of the White Towers of Avacal

"We will also accept:

"The Order of the White Tower of Avacal, if it must be a singular heraldic charge."

The letter is signed by Kvigr, Prince of Avacal and Linnet, Princess of Avacal.

4: Avacal, Principality of - New Order Name

The Order of the White Towers of Avacal

• Meaning (unspecified) most important.

The submitter's name was registered as Avacal, Crown Principality of in September of 1993 and updated to Avacal, Principality of in October of 1998.

The submitter will accept any changes, cares most about the meaning of the name (unspecified) and expresses no interest in having the name be changed to be authentic.

The note in the documentation area of the form reads as follows: "Fits the meta-pattern for heraldic charges. We will accept White Tower, singular."

The OED s.v. tower, n. has the modern spelling in 1526.

The OED s.v. white, a. has forms of the colour word as early as c. 950, and dates the precise spelling "white" to before 1300: "Two aungels..Cled in white clothez."

A Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry by Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme and Akagawa Yoshio has the following entry for <tower>: "TOWER - A tower is a fortified edifice, roughly cylindrical with an embattled top; it is sometimes more fully blazoned a "watch tower". The door faces the viewer by default; when blazoned "proper", it is grey (i.e. argent), the color of stone. The tower is often drawn masoned, even when not explicitly blazoned so. [743]. … Period heralds drew no distinction between the tower and the castle, considering the two to be equivalent; the exact blazon was often chosen solely for a cant, as with the arms of Tours, 1586…."

The submission is also accompanied by a handwritten assertion of support which states: "We the undersigned support this Order name for the Princapality of Avacal. We accept major changes." It is signed by Gemma, Princess of Avacal, Steinn, Prince of Avacal and the following officers: A&S, Calendar, Royal Archer, Chatelaine and Seneschal.

Also included with this submission is a petition for registration of Award name which reads as follows: "We, Kvigr and Linnet, Prince and Princess of Avacal, affirm that we approve of the following award name submissions for the principality of Avacal. These submissions were also signed by our predecessors and by Avacal's major officers at an earlier date.

"The Awards names are as follows

"1) The Order of Avacal

"We realize this may be impossible to pass due to regulations but are aware that it would have been common usage in medieval times. We are hoping for approval from Laurel to use this name and create a device.

"2) The Order of the Red Gryphon of Avacal

"3) The Order of the White Towers of Avacal

"We will also accept:

"The Order of the White Tower of Avacal, if it must be a singular heraldic charge."

The letter is signed by Kvigr, Prince of Avacal and Linnet, Princess of Avacal.

5: Elspeth Dubh inghean Dubhghaill - New Device

Per saltire purpure and azure, a cross patonce argent.

The submitter's branch is Vinjar.

The submitter's name was forwarded to Laurel in April of 2007. Her previous submission of Elspeth ingen Dubhghaill was returned by Kingdom in February 2006 "…for conflict with Elizabeth Dougall 07/1988 via An Tir. Per RFS V.1.a Difference of Name Phrases:

"Two name phrases are considered significantly different if they differ significantly in sound and appearance. Name phrases that are not significantly different are said to be equivalent.

"Variant spellings of the same word or name, no matter how radical, are not considered significantly different unless there is also a significant difference in pronunciation.

"Elspeth is a variant of Elizabeth, so no difference can be found for the change of the given name. The surname Dougall in the registered name is an unmarked patronymic. "inghean Dubhghaill" is a Gaelic patronymic meaning "daughter of Dougall." As such, both the registered name and the submitted name mean "Elizabeth, daughter of Dougall." Therefore there is no CD between the two surnames."

6: Gemma Northwode - New Device

Argent, a hurst of apple trees proper, on a chief azure three escallops argent.

The submitter's branch is Stromgard.

The submitter's name was registered in March of 2007.

7: Isabella de Walingeford - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No major changes.
• Sound (Isabel or Isabella - the place known today as Wallingford) most important.

The submitter's branch is Blatha An Oir.

The submitter will not accept major changes, desires a feminine name and cares most about the sound of her name: Isabel or Isabella - the place known today as Wallingford. She expresses no interest in having her name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

<Isabella> is dated to 1199 and 1379 in Withycombe (sn Isabel).

<Walingeford> is dated to the Domesday Book and 1179 in Eckwall (sn Wallingford).

8: Jacob the Upended - New Name

• Submitter desires a male name.
• No major changes.
• Language (unspecified) most important.
• Culture (unspecified) most important.

The submitter's branch is Bitter End.

The submitter will not accept major changes, desires a masculine name and cares most about the spelling and language and/or culture of his name (unspecified). He expresses no interest in having his name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

<Jacob>: 15th century English. Listed at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/agincourt/ as compiled from another source, two instances of the name occur in the list as posted on the website. Link to this site posted by An Tir College of Heralds website, specifically at the address http://www.antirheralds.org/education/education.html.

Description of web content as posted at above site by site author Arval Benicoeur:

"These two tables in this article contain the given names from The Agincourt Honor Roll, web-published by Family Chronicle, a magazine for amateur genealogists. Such sources are often not useful for Society name research, since their goals differ from ours, but this particular list appears to be pretty good. It was scanned out of Sir Nicolas Nicholas Harris, History of the Battle of Agincourt and of the Expedition of Henry the Fifth into France in 1415 to which is added the Roll of the Men of Arms in the English Armory, 3rd edition (London: Johnston & co., 1833). I haven't tracked down a copy of that book in order to check the author's sources."

Website's references:

(1) Reaney, P.H., & R.M. Wilson, A Dictionary of English Surnames (London: Routledge, 1991; Oxford University Press, 1995.)

(2) Withycombe, E.G., The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names, 3rd ed. (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1988).

<the Upended>: Nickname, English.

Byname discussion website: http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/bynames/. Submission is modernized; period usage may have been "L'uppendyd or similar, as borrowing from the French language did begin around the late 14th century. Nickname usage and spelling are unattested; however, it sees usage on SCA membership cards in modern form and spelling.

No photocopies of the articles were included with this submission.

8: Jacob the Upended - New Device

Sable, a boar sejant argent.

9: Jǫrundr Haustmyrkr - New Name

• Submitter desires a male name.
• No major changes.
• Language (Norse) most important.
• Culture (Norse) most important.

The submitter's branch is Dragon's Mist.

The submitter will not accept major changes, desires a masculine name and cares most about the language and/or culture of his name, which he states to be Norse/Viking. He expresses no interest in having his name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

<Jǫrundr>: found in the Landnámabók as accessed on 9/26/07 via http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html with a frequency of 13 and a pronunciation note of "YOR-oond(r)".

<Haustmyrkr>: found in the Landnámabók as accessed on 9/26/07 via http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/vikbynames.html with a number of occurances [sic] of 1 and a meaning of "autumn (early) dusk".

Photocopies of the articles are included with this submission.

9: Jǫrundr Haustmyrkr - New Device

Per fess sable and argent, a mascle countercharged.

10: Kaeso Petronius Gallus - New Device

Per pale sable and gules, a goutte d'eau.

The submitter's branch is Vinjar.

The submitter's name was forwarded to Laurel in April of 2007.

11: Margerie Freyser - Resub Device

Per chevron engrailed vert and argent, two cinquefoils and a crescent counterchanged.

The submitter's branch is Dragon's Mist.

The submitter's name was registered in October of 2001.

Her previous submission of Per chevron vert and argent, two cinquefoils and a crescent counterchanged was returned by Kingdom for conflict with Michael of Northshield: Per chevron vert and argent, two roses argent and a cock close sable. There is insufficient difference between roses and cinquefoils to count as a change, and multiple changes to the basemost charge can result in, at most, one CD.

This resubmission addresses the above conflict.

12: Myfanwy Llwyd - Resub Name Change

Old Item: Myfanwy Golwynwraig Penmynydd, to be released.

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No major changes.
• Client requests authenticity for 14th century Welsh.
• Language (Welsh) most important.
• Culture (Welsh) most important.
• Meaning (gray (haried)) most important.

The submitter's branch is Ambergard.

The submitter's registered name of Myfanwy Golwynwraig Penmynydd was registered in May of 1998.

The submitter's previous submission of the same name was returned by Kingdom in September 2007 as it was submitted on the old forms.

The submitter will not accept major changes, desires a feminine name and cares most about the meaning and language/culture of her name which she states to be Welsh with the meaning of gray (haired). She wishes her name to be changed to be authentic for 14th century Welsh and will accept the creation of a holding name. She desires her old name to be released upon registration of this submission.

<Myfanwy> is found in "A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names" by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn.

<Llwyd> is found in the same article.

No URL was given for this article. Photocopies were included (no URL was printed at the bottom of the photocopies).

13: Pádraig Mac Fhaolain - New Name Change

Old Item: Ædric Duquesne, to be released.

• No changes.

The submitter's branch is An Tir.

The submitter's registered name of Ædric Duquesne was registered in April of 1991.

The submitter will not accept any changes, does not have a preference for the gender of his name, does not express a preference if his name must be changed, does not wish his name to be changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name. He wishes his registered name to be released upon registration of this submission.

<Pádraig>: Irish spelling of Patrick (Black, 651).

<Mac>: Scots patronymic (Black, throughout) for Gaelic names.

<Fhaolain>: Gaelic spelling of Fillan, a Catholic saint who traveled through Scotland in the 8th c.: (Black, 470) for spelling; for life of St. Fillan: http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/people/FamousFirst1011.html

(docco from Black, George F., The Surnames of Scotland)

An Tir OSCAR counts: 4 New Names, 1 New Name Change, 3 New Order Names, 6 New Devices. This gives 14 new items. Resub counts: 1 Resub Name Change, 1 Resub Device. This is a total of 2 resubmissions on this letter, for a total of 16 actions.

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