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An Tir IL dated 2007-10-01 (Jump to Submissions)

Unto Christopher Black Lion and the esteemed members of the An Tir College of Heralds to whom this missive comes, Li Ban ingen Echtigeirn, Boar Herald, sends greetings and felicitations.

The following items are presented for your consideration.

Unless otherwise noted, all submitters will accept the creation of a holding name, if appropriate; has no desire for authenticity and allows any changes.

Commentary on this letter is due on November 10th, 2007.

1: Aethelred of Andredesleage - Resub Badge

(Fieldless) A stag's massacre within and conjoined to an annulet of chain Or.

The submitter's name was registered in August of 1991.

His previous submission of the same blazon was returned at Kingdom in December of 2002 for style issues (poorly drawn scalp and chain, and the tips of the antlers overlapping the chain) and for visual conflict with Atlantia, Kingdom of (Fieldless) A stag's head cabossed within and conjoined to an annulet Or.

This submission addresses the above issues. The submitter is was knighted in July of 1994 and is thus entitled to use an annulet of chain.

2: Avine de Hert - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No major changes.
• Sound most important.

The submitter will not accept major changes, desires a feminine name and cares the most about the sound of her name. She expresses no interest in having her name be changed to be authentic and she will allow the creation of a holding name.

This name is supported by a letter from The Academy of S. Gabriel #3252.

The submitter asked for help developing an authentic name for a woman of Anglo-Norman descent living in the 13th or 14th centuries, <Avin de Hart> in particular, and desired to use some form of <Hart>.

No explicit examples of <Avin> were found, though <Avina> is dated to 1221 and 1258 and <Avin'> to 1255. "<Avina> is probably a pet form of the name <Avicia> or <Auicia>. [1,2] We believe that the vernacular form of <Avina> was <Avine>, no <Avin>. [3]…"

<de Hert> is the form recommended as per the following quote: "There are two likely derivations for the English surname <Hart>." The first is "…from the Old English word <heorot> `hart', which gave rise to the Middle English word <hert>. Examples of this Middle English word used as a byname… include <Hert> 1166, <Hurt> 1185, <le Hert> 1197, <le Hurt> 1220, and <Hort> 1221. [2] We also found one <Isabella le Hert> in 1273….[4]…

"Based on this, the byname <de Hart> isn't out of the question for your period, though certainly <de Hert> is more likely."

The cited references are as follows:

[1] Talan Gwynek, "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames" (SCA: KWHS Proceedings, 1994; www: Academy of Saint Gabriel, 1997). http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/

[2] Reaney, P.H., & R.M. Wilson, A Dictionary of English Surnames (London: Routledge, 1991; Oxford University Press, 1995), s.nn. Hart, Leffingwell

[4] Bardsley, Charles, A Dictionary of English and Welsh Surnames (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1980), s.n. Hart

2: Avine de Hert - New Device

Vert, a stag trippant cotourney argent between three oak leaves inverted Or.

3: Avine de Hert - New Badge

Fieldless, three oak leaves in annulo, Or.

The submitter's name may be found above on this letter.

4: Constance Wyatt - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No major changes.
• Culture (16th century England) most important.

The submitter will not accept major changes, desires a feminine name and cares most about the language and/or culture of her name, which is stated to be 16th century England. She expresses no interest in having her name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

<Wyatt> is found in the index "surnames" in the article entitled "Brass Enscription Index" by Julian Goodwyn at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/brasses/welcome.html with a frequency of 1 and dated to 1545 in the county of Kent.

<Constance> is found in the index "female given names" of the same article with a frequency of 2, and dated to 1581 in the county of Middlesex. <Constance> is also found in the Academy of S. Gabriel article "Names in Chesham, 1538-1600/1" by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mari/chesham/chesham-feminine.html dated to the 15 April 1574 on page 35 of J.W. Garrett-Pegge's "A Transcript of the First Volume, 1538-1636, of the parish Register of Chesham, Buckingham County" (London: Elliot Stock, 1904), Facsimile Reprint: (Bowie, Maryland: Heritage Books, Inc., 1993).

4: Constance Wyatt - New Device

azure, in pale a Lion Statant Or and a Rose argent Seeded gules between flaunches Or

5: D{e-}orswith (D{e-}orswið) - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No major changes.
• Culture (800-1150 CE Anglo-Saxon) most important.

The submitter will not accept major changes, desires a feminine name and cares most about the language and/or culture of her name which is stated as being Anglo-Saxon, 800-1150 CE. She expresses no interest in having her name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

The following is a direct quote from the documentation section of the submitter's form; no other documentation or information was provided:

"- Searles Onomasticon Anglo-Saxonicum, p 165 (2 entries dated 901 & 1050 C.E.)

- Prosopography of Anglo-Saxon England (PASE) at http://www.pase.ac.uk/index.html (entry under "D"_ Deorswith: "Deorswith: 1 - ex (Owner of land in Wilts., [Wiltshire] fl. 901""

5: D{e-}orswith (D{e-}orswið) - New Device

Per pall Vert, Azure & Argent, Three oak leaves conjoined at the slips Or, Argent and Gules.

6: Eiríkr Hrafnkelsson - Resub Device

Sable, three furisions one and two argent

The submitter's name was registered in November of 2006.

His previous submission of the same blazon was returned by Laurel in March 2007 for unidentifiability of the furisons.

7: Eiríkr Hrafnkelsson - Resub Badge

Sable, a furison Or

The submitter's name was registered in November of 2006.

His previous submission of (Fieldless) A fire-steel sable was returned by Kingdom in November of 2006 for conflict with Odriana vander Brugghe - March of 2004: (Fieldless) A furison sable.

8: Elisabeth Litton - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.

The submitter will accept any changes, desires a feminine name and cares most about the spelling of her name. She expresses no interest in having her name be changed to be authentic. She will allow the creation of a holding name.

<Elisabth> is from "The Etymology and History of Names": Elisabeth means `God is my oath'. This is the usual biblical spelling. 1st English Queen 1558-1603. [No URL or authorial information is given by the submitter. I was unable to find a single site which had all the information given on the form on a single page, however, all the given information can be found on "Behind the Name: the etymology and history of first names" at http://www.behindthename.com. Two pages combined produce the information given by the submitter: that for <Elizabeth> and that for <Elisabeth>.

The direct link to the name <Elizabeth> is http://www.behindthename.com/name/elizabeth. This site states the following:

"From Ελισαβετ (Elisabet), the Greek form of the Hebrew name אֱלִישֶׁבַע ('Elisheva') meaning "my God is an oath" or perhaps "my God is abundance". The Hebrew form appears in the Old Testament where Elisheba is the wife of Aaron, while the Greek form appears in the New Testament where Elizabeth is the mother of John the Baptist.

"The name was borne in the 12th century by Saint Elizabeth, a daughter of King Andrew II of Hungary who became a Franciscan nun and lived in poverty. It was also the name of a ruling queen of England and an empress of Russia. Famous modern bearers include the British queen Elizabeth II and actress Elizabeth Taylor."

The direct link to the second page, <Elisabeth>, is http://www.behindthename.com/name/elisabeth. It states as follows:

"German and Dutch form of ELIZABETH. It is also a variant English form, reflecting the spelling used in the Authorized Version of the New Testament." - Lí Ban]

<Litton> is discussed in a letter from the Academy of S. Gabriel #3282 in which the submitter asked about the name <Litton Spoke>. The letter states the following:

"The only example of <Litton> that we found is the name of fou{r} different cities in England. These cities gave rise to a loc{ative} byname (byname based on place of residence), of which we find {the} following forms: [2,3,4]

"de Litton 1175, 1273, 1332

"de Lideton' 1212

"de Lytton 1327,1379

"Lytton 1403

"Litton 1583

"If you want to develop an English persona, any of these would {be a} suitable choice to use as your byname, but they would not be appropriate as a given name." [Use of brackets {} indicates conjectured words on my part as the printout of the submitter's email - in html format - cut off the end of each line. Only the first page of the three page email was included with this submission. The sources referenced in the email are as follows (gleaned from the copy of the letter available from the S. Gabriel website at http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/3282.txt):

"[2] Reaney, P. H., & R. M. Wilson, A Dictionary of English Surnames (London: Routledge, 1991; Oxford University Press, 1995), s.n. Litton.

"[3] Bardsley, Charles, A Dictionary of English and Welsh Surnames (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1980), s.n. Litton.

"[4] Curtis, Margaret, "The London lay subsidy of 1332" in George Unwin, ed., Finance and trade under Edward III (Manchester: University Press; London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1918). - Lí Ban]

8: Elisabeth Litton - New Device

Sable, a falcon sergeant maintaining in talon, dexter three arrows, all or

9: Gemma DeLaRoche - New Name Change

Old Item: Gemma Meena of Cur Elmo's Keep, to be retained.

• Submitter desires a female name.
• No changes.

The submitter's registered name of Gemma Meen was registered in January of 2002. [I could find no evidence of a submission for a name change to Gemma Meena of Cur Elmo's Keep. Gemma Meen and Gemma Meena of Cur Elmo's Keep are, however, definitely the same individual according to all contact information. - Lí Ban]

The submitter wishes the name of Gemma Meena of Cur Elmo's Keep retained as an alternate name.

The submitter will not accept major or minor changes to her name and desires a female name. She expresses no preference if her name must be changed. She expresses no interest in having her name changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

<Gemma> is found in an article from the Medieval Names Archive entitled "Feminine Given names in A Dictionary of English Surnames" by Talan Gwynek (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/reaney/index_early3.html) on the first page of names in the "Index of Names Attested Before 1250: F to J".

<De La Roche> is found at the following URLs: http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/cateline/norman16.html ["Sixteenth Century Norman Names" by Cateline de la Mor: <de La Roche> is one of the names in the list of surnames - Lí Ban]; http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/bordeaux.html ["Names Found in Commercial Documents from Bordeaux, 1470-1520" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael, with assistance from Talan Gwynek: <Bastien de la Roche> under the header <Sebastien> - Lí Ban]; and on the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project Global Search at http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?surname=Delaroche&start=1. The following are entries from the RootsWeb pages highlighted by the submitter: <DeLaRoche, Adam>, dated to 1160; <DeLaRoche, Adam>, dated to about 1160; and <DeLaRoche, Alice And Athen>, dated to 1235. The full entry for <Alice DeLaRoche And Athen> has the following:

"Name: Alice DeLaRoche And Athen

"Surname: DeLaRoche

"Given Name: Alice

"Suffix: And Athen

"Sex: F

"Birth: 1235 in Athen, Athen, Greece, Greece

"…

"Father: Guy DeLeRoche Duke D'athene b: ABT 1215 in France…."

Photocopies of the RootsWeb pages and "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames: Index of Names Attested Before 1250: F to J" are included with this submission. Photocopies of the other webpages were not included.

10: Lucia Magna - New Name

• Submitter desires a female name.
• Client requests authenticity for unspecified.
• Culture (unspecified) most important.

The submitter will accept any changes; desires a female name; cares most about the language and/or culture of her name, which is unspecified and wishes her name to be changed to be authentic for an unspecified language and/or culture. She will allow the creation of a holding name.

This name is discussed in the Academy of Saint Gabriel Report #2842 [URL is http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi/2842.txt; report discusses the French name <Lucien> and how it is derived from the Roman cognomen <Lucianus> which is in turn derived from the nomen <Lucius> - Lí Ban] and at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/roman [Article is "Names and Naming Practices of Republican Rome" by Meradudd Cethin and contains both the praenomen <Lucius> and the cognomen <Magnus>. It also discusses the naming practices for Roman women, giving the example of <Cornelia Scipio> as the feminization of <Publius Cornelius Scipio>. - Lí Ban]

No photocopies were included with this submission.

10: Lucia Magna - New Device

Per bend or and purpure, a triquetra purpure a modern rose or slipped and leaved vert.

11: Myfanwy Golwynwraig Penmynydd - New Device Change

Per bend sinister Argent and Vert; A Triquetra, Azure and an Eradicated Tree Argent.

Old Item: Argent, a triquetra azure and a mountain of three peaks vert, to be released.

The submitter's name was registered in May of 1998.

She wishes her currently registered device of Argent, a triquetra azure and a mountain of three peaks vert registered in May of 1998 released.

12: Randal Fitz Alan the Redowtable - New Name Change

Old Item: Randal the Redowtable, to be retained.

• No major changes.

The submitter's registered name of Randal the Redowtable was registered in November of 1992.

He desires his registered name to be retained as an alternate.

The submitter will not accept major changes, expresses no preference for gender or changes. He expresses no interest in having his name be changed to be authentic and will allow the creation of a holding name.

<Fitz Alan> is found in Joseph Foster's Feudal Coats of Arms [No publication information was provided for this book. - Lí Ban]. The entry reads: "Fitz Alan, Sir Bryan le, banneret, baron of Bedale in 1295, sealed the Barons' letter to the Pope 1301, with a strange device. He bore, at the battle of Falkirk 1298, and at the siege of Carlaverock 1300, barry or and gules (F.) blasoned (1) as barry (10) in the Nobility Rolls 1297, 1299, 1300; (2) as barry (8) at Carlaverock; these arms are said to be the same as Hugh Pointz and to be disputed, see also Glover, Grimaldi, Howard and St. George Rolls and Jenyns' Ordinary; (3) attributed to Bryan (1) as barry (6) in Dering and Guillim Rolls, and (4) as, or three bars gules in the Arundel and Parly. Rolls."

No documentation was provided for <Randal> or <the Redowtable>.

13: Robért de Perceval - Resub Name

Peredur Balfau Iachaol

• Submitter desires a male name.
• Meaning (of Percheval, Normandy) most important.

The submitter's previous name submission of Peredur Balfau Iachaol was returned at Kingdom in July of 2006 for lack of documentation for the element <Iachaol> combined with no major changes being allowed.

The submitter will accept any changes; desires a masculine name; and cares most about the meaning of his name, which he states to be `of Percheval, Normandy'. He expresses no interest in having his name changed to be authentic and he will allow the creation of a holding name.

<Perceval> is found at http://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/chesttombs/chesttombs.htm in the section that discusses Early and Tudor Chest Tombs. The excerpt is as follows: "…Perceval Monument at Weston in Gordano, Somerset. According to its plaque, this is the tomb of `Richard Perceval, commander in the crusades, who fought under King Richard and died in 1202'." [The name of the article is "Churchyard Chest Tombs" by Jonathan Taylor - Lí Ban].

<Perceval> is also found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/WestonInGordano/index.html in a blurb about "Weston-in-Gordano, a parish in the hundred of Portbury, county Somerset, 9 miles N.W. of Bristol, and 3 from Clevedon railway station. It is situated near the coast of the Bristol Channel, and forms with Walton one village. The soil is loamy, on a subsoil of limestone. The living is a rectory in the diocese of Bath and Wells, value £160. The church, dedicated to St. Paul, contains a monument to R. Perceval. The register dates from 1684. There are National and Sunday schools. The local charities, including Goodyer's school endowment, produce £80 per annum. The ancient courthouse, for many generations the seat of the Perceval family, who were lords of the manor, is now in ruins. Sir W. Miles, Bart., M.P., is lord of the manor and chief landowner." From The National Gazetteer of Great Britain and Ireland (1868) Transcribed by Colin Hinson © 2003"

Another source is listed in the documentation section: Burkes Commoners. Vol 4 pgs 609, 610, 611. [This book is not on the no photocopy list; no photocopies of this source were included with this submission. - Lí Ban]

[As I am unable to verify if the above source contains <Robért>, I am forced to say that no documentation has been provided for the given name. - Lí Ban]

13: Robért de Perceval - Resub Device

Argent, on a lozenge gules, a bear statant argent and on a chief gules three crosses pattee

The submitter's previous device submission of Argent, on a lozenge fesswise gules, a bear statant argent and on a chief gules 3 crosses paty argent was returned by Kingdom at the same time for a style issue; the return cited the following precedent: Joscelin d'Outremer. Device. Per pale gules and argent, a lozenge counterchanged. This submission was originally blazoned on the LoI as a lozenge fesswise. As previously noted "Because lozenges could be drawn with various proportions in period, including a square set on its corner (which can be neither fesswise nor palewise), it does not make sense to distinguish different proportions of lozenge in blazon. [Cecily of Whitehaven, 02/02, AÆthelmearc]".

This is not a lozenge throughout because it touches only two sides. We were unable to derive a blazon that would reproduce this emblazon." [LoAR 09/2005]. It was also returned for color-shifting of the gules to sanguine.

14: Seamus mac Giolla Phadraig - New Name

• Submitter desires a male name.
• No major changes.
• Client requests authenticity for 12th-16th century Irish.
• Language (Irish) most important.
• Culture (Irish) most important.

The submitter will not accept major changes to his name, desires a male name, cares the most about the language and/or culture of his name which he states to be Irish. He wishes his name to be changed to be authentic for Irish 12th-16th century language/culture and time period. He will allow the creation of a holding name.

The submitter's name in its entirety is supported by a letter from the Academy of Saint Gabriel: "You wanted to know if <Se/amus Mac Giolla Pa/draig> is an authentic name for an Irish man living sometime between 1200 and 1600. (Here, we're using the / to represent an acute accent over the previous letter).

"With a minor change, you've chosen a good name for the 14th to 16th centuries.

"<Se/amus> is a Gaelic form of the name <James>, which we find various times between 1398 and 1608. <Giolla Pa/draig> appears to be an error for the masculine name <Giolla Pha/draig>, which we find in the 13th through 16th centuries. [1] A man named <Se/amus> who was the son of a man named <Giolla Phadraig> could have been known as <Se.amus mac Guilla Pha/draig>…."

The referenced source is :[1] "Index of Names in the Irish Annals" http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mari/AnnalsIndex/.

[The letter provided by the submitter is not a photocopy of an entire S. Gabriel report; it seems to be a cut-and-paste of only the text of the email itself with no header or report number. I couldn't find any record of this report in the S. Gabriel archives. The closest I could come was a reference to a report #: 3227 Name: Seamus; Culture & Period: Irish, to 1600; Start Date: 15 November 2006; End Date: No report; Writer: Cancelled. This fits with the date on the letter provided by the submitter: 30 November 2006. The writer listed on the letter provided by the submitter is Aryanhwy. Aryanhwy's surname is not present on this letter; this is inconsistent with all prior S. Gabriel reports that I have seen. - Lí Ban]

14: Seamus mac Giolla Phadraig - New Device

Azure, a chaplet of thorns argent, a bordure argent, three gouttes azure.

An Tir OSCAR counts: 6 New Names, 2 New Name Changes, 6 New Devices, 1 New Device Change, 1 New Badge. This gives 16 new items. Resub counts: 1 Resub Name, 2 Resub Devices, 2 Resub Badges. This is a total of 5 resubmissions on this letter, for a total of 21 actions.

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